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Path: nntp.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: [OT] 12 year old British born girl punished for celebrating British culture Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2025 13:45:06 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 53 Message-ID: <105bcr2$1fq2b$2@dont-email.me> References: <10599au$srpa$1@dont-email.me> <609062613.774410006.176496.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> <1059npc$15dd5$1@dont-email.me> <105a13m$171t1$3@dont-email.me> <105b40b$1dt3q$2@dont-email.me> <105ba4b$1fapk$3@dont-email.me> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2025 19:45:07 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7616f58e5f1267a7444f547424bacfea"; logging-data="1566795"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18hJiywM5aQ6Q2c4bibka7eKqy6S6RF6wY=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Rd9tLLn4QUEv3U2d5GHQ5pyHRbo= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <105ba4b$1fapk$3@dont-email.me> On 7/17/2025 12:58 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > On Jul 17, 2025 at 8:14:18 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: > >> On 7/17/2025 1:18 AM, BTR1701 wrote: >>> On Jul 16, 2025 at 7:39:40 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 7/16/2025 10:02 PM, anim8rfsk wrote: >>>>> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were >>>>>> told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual >>>>>> school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag. >>>>>> She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of >>>>>> clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to >>>>>> pick her up early. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes] >>>>>> >>>>>> Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as >>>>>> well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to >>>>>> reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I >>>>>> see it! >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I’ve seen that and it wasn’t clear to me if maybe she got punished under a >>>>> flag rule. When I was her age, it was illegal to wear clothing made from >>>>> the American flag. >>>> >>>> In today's (and yesterday's, and the day before's...) political climate, >>>> it's also possible that she was brandishing an anti-diversity sentiment. >>> >>> Which in a country with a 1st Amendment and a robust protection of free >>> speech >>> can and should never be grounds for discipline. People, even school >>> children, >>> are allowed to have an opinion on issues of public concern that are contrary >>> to those of the strutting martinets who run the school. >>> >>> (Yes, I know this was England and they don't have a 1st Amendment, though >>> they >>> do claim to value free speech in theory, even if less and less in practice >>> as >>> time goes on.) >> >> Yes, but I continue to hope for a difference between speech to inform >> and speech to injure. > > And the distinction between the two will be left to the aforementioned > martinets to determine, yes? Not sure why you'd think such judges harder to find than any others.