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From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: [OT] 12 year old British born girl punished for celebrating
 British culture
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2025 13:45:06 -0400
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On 7/17/2025 12:58 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Jul 17, 2025 at 8:14:18 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 7/17/2025 1:18 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>   On Jul 16, 2025 at 7:39:40 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>   
>>>>   On 7/16/2025 10:02 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>>     Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>     Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were
>>>>>>     told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual
>>>>>>     school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag.
>>>>>>     She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
>>>>>>     clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to
>>>>>>     pick her up early.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as
>>>>>>     well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to
>>>>>>     reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I
>>>>>>     see it!
>>>>>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>     I’ve seen that and it wasn’t clear to me if maybe she got punished under a
>>>>>     flag rule. When I was her age, it was illegal to wear clothing made from
>>>>>     the American flag.
>>>>
>>>>   In today's (and yesterday's, and the day before's...) political climate,
>>>>   it's also possible that she was brandishing an anti-diversity sentiment.
>>>   
>>>   Which in a country with a 1st Amendment and a robust protection of free
>>> speech
>>>   can and should never be grounds for discipline. People, even school
>>> children,
>>>   are allowed to have an opinion on issues of public concern that are contrary
>>>   to those of the strutting martinets who run the school.
>>>   
>>>   (Yes, I know this was England and they don't have a 1st Amendment, though
>>> they
>>>   do claim to value free speech in theory, even if less and less in practice
>>> as
>>>   time goes on.)
>>
>> Yes, but I continue to hope for a difference between speech to inform
>> and speech to injure.
> 
> And the distinction between the two will be left to the aforementioned
> martinets to determine, yes?

Not sure why you'd think such judges harder to find than any others.