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From: Harald Oehlmann <wortkarg3@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.tcl
Subject: Re: threads with package bug (probably timing error) on magicsplat
 9.01/02 and bawt 9.01
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2025 08:03:47 +0200
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Am 17.07.2025 um 21:52 schrieb et99:
> On 7/17/2025 12:04 AM, Harald Oehlmann wrote:
>> Am 17.07.2025 um 05:22 schrieb et99:
>>> I have found a bug in tcl/tk 9.0x that occurs on windows when doing a 
>>> [package require math] inside of several threads concurrently. I have 
>>> tested several different distributions, a 9.01 and 9.02 magicsplat, a 
>>> bawt 9.01 distro and tclkit, and as a control, 8.6.16 magicsplat 
>>> (which does not fail).
>>
>> I am sorry that nobody picked it up.
>> Symbol build and Visual Studio Debug->Attach to process is not soo 
>> complicated...
>>
>> I have added my ideas to the ticket.
>>
>> Sometimes, it is necessary to wave with all hands to get attention, 
>> sorry.
>>
>> Thanks for all,
>> Harald
> Thanks, I didn't want to shout too loudly :) I have added some thoughts 
> to the ticket in response to some of the postings by others.
> 
> One question in my mind: Is there some portion of the package database 
> kept in C code that is not visible to script code? And if so, is that 
> global to all threads, which would require some sort of locking?
> 
> That could explain why it takes more than one thread to see a problem. 
> Obviously, if a package require math (or any other one that fails) were 
> failing in a single threaded program, people would have noticed long 
> before now.
> 
> I recall years ago when doing a package require Tk inside of multiple 
> threads caused access violations on linux (but not windows). That was 
> fixed when some additional locking was added. Perhaps this is a similar 
> situation.
> 
> 
> 
> -eric
> 
> 
> 

Yes, package code is in C.
Please only use the ticket to comment.
We have now Mega-Wizard Sergey on the track. Please try to support him.

Thanks for all,
Harald