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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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Subject: Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to
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Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2025 19:02:00 -0500
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On 7/18/2025 6:41 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 17:53:39 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 7/18/2025 5:20 PM, Beej Jorgensen wrote:
>>> In article <105ca6p$1lci9$10@dont-email.me>,
>>> AMuzi  <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>> The few remaining steam trains are curiosities, not actual commercially
>>>> viable transport.
>>>
>>> I was lucky enough to ride commercial steam trains in India in the 80s.
>>> They're long gone, I'm certain.
>>>
>>> But I was surprised at the extent of electrified rail in Norway when I
>>> visited a couple years back--over half their rail is electrified and
>>> takes you considerable distances, e.g. Bergen to Oslo to Trondheim.
>>>
>>
>> We have electric service here too beyond subway systems,
>> mostly interurban lines:
>>
>> https://www.chicagorailfan.com/interxma.html
>>
>> With Norway's hydropower resources, that makes sense.
>> Here in USA we rip out dams (sigh). Cry over pathetic chart
>> here:
>> https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=2130
> 
> That's graph is from 2010 and a poor choice of data for US hydro
> power.  Methinks this is better.
> <https://www.caiso.com/todays-outlook/supply>
> It's CAISO (California Independent Service Operators) which covers 9
> western states.  More of the same:
> <https://www.gridstatus.io/live/caiso>
> The pie chart currently shows large hydro at 7.7% of the total and
> small hydro at 1.1%.  It used to be much higher.  (Notice that small
> hydro is considered renewable energy while large hydro is not).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Good links but I was specifically looking for something with 
a long time scale and the 100 year chart shows the 
nonsensical abandonment of hydropower well.

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Andrew Muzi
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