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From: "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Late Night TV Is Obsolete
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2025 18:29:20 -0700
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On 7/19/25 5:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

> Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
>> On 7/19/25 2:58 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>> On 2025-07-18 3:04 AM, Your Name wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Financial decision" ...
>>>> translation: greedy-ass Stephen Colbert wanted a lot more money and
>>>> we're not paying.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      CBS to Cancel 'Late Show With Stephen Colbert'
>>>>      Citing 'Financial Decision'
>>>>      ----------------------------------------------
>>>>      TV's ongoing problems with late night have come for Stephen Colbert,
>>>>      with CBS announcing Thursday that it plans to end his "Late Show"
>>>>      after the next TV season, citing a "financial decision."
>>>>
>>>>      The maneuver - which ends years of original late-night programming
>>>>      at CBS that started when the network lured David Letterman from NBC
>>>>      in 1993 - comes as the economics of wee-hours TV have begun to
>>>>      accelerate, with media companies growing wary of the high price tags
>>>>      involved in producing the shows while the young viewers they try to
>>>>      attract watch more of them via digital video.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/cbs-cancel-late-show-stephen-
>>>> colbert- financial-decision-1236464356/>
>>>
>>> The whole lot of the current crop of late night hosts should be fired
>>> for their sheer smarminess. Colbert, Stewart, Kimmel, and the rest. Get
>>> someone genuinely funny like Craig Ferguson who has fun with his guests
>>> instead of trying to lecture the audience on what their politics should
>>> be. That's *my* prescription for fixing late night TV.
>>
>> Yes, but...
>>
>> Yes, late night is now dead because someone thought it was a keen idea
>> to make all the late night hosts ultra-woke, reactionary, Democrat
>> partisans. (To be fair, I don't really think that's true of Jimmy
>> Fallon, who seems more like an "everyman-drunk comic". But it's true of
>> all the rest.) And replacing most of those with at least non-partisan
>> (or bi-partisan) hosts would help.
>>
>> But the truth is that late-night TV talk shows were destined to die
>> anyway. They were originally a product of the "three network universe",
>> and really have no reason to survive in the "post-500 channel TV
>> streaming universe".
>>
>> If something like "The Soup" can't even survive these days (and it looks
>> like YouTube and TikTok pretty much killed that), then the late-night
>> talk shows have no hope of surviving! even if they were depoliticized.
>>
> 
> No, the slovenly mother of the slovenly Kardashian whores killed the soup.
> She asked the head of the channel to get them to leave her fat pig
> daughters alone and they buckled and asked Joel. And Joel said that if his
> own channel wasn’t fair game, then it was over, and he shut down the soup.
> Because of the fat pigs scum garbage Kardashian whores.

That's what killed it on E!.

But Joel took what was basically an R-rated version of "The Soup" to 
Netflix. It died after 1 season of just a couple of months of episodes.

That tells me that a show like that won't work anymore - I think there 
are too many YouTube copycats for a show like that now.