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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2025 10:07:56 -0500
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On 7/20/2025 2:44 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
> Op 19.jul.2025 om 23:18 schreef olcott:
>> On 7/19/2025 4:00 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>> Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> [ .... ]
>>>
>>>> ps. learn to post more respectfully.
>>>
>>> You've hit the nail on the head, there.  Peter Olcott doesn't show
>>> respect here for anybody.  Because of this he isn't shown any respect
>>> back - he hasn't earned any.  I don't think he understands the concept
>>> of respect any more than he understands the concept of truth.
>>>
>>> If he were to show repect, he'd repect knowledge, truth, and learning,
>>> and strive to acquire these qualities.  Instead he displays contempt for
>>> them.  This is a large part of what makes him a crank.  It is
>>> a large part of what makes it such a waste of time trying to correct
>>> him, something that you've sensibly given up.
>>>
>>
>> Now that chat bots have proven that they understand
>> what I am saying I can rephrase my words to be more
>> clear.
> 
> Chat-boxes prove that reasoning with invalid presumptions lead to 
> invalid conclusions.
> 
>>
>> I have been rude because I cannot interpret the
>> rebuttal to this statement as anything besides
>> a despicable lie for the sole purpose of sadistic
>> pleasure of gaslighting:
>>
>> <input to chat bots>
>> typedef void (*ptr)();
>> int HHH(ptr P);
>>
>> void DDD()
>> {
>>    HHH(DDD);
>>    return;
>> }
>>
>> int main()
>> {
>>    HHH(DDD);
>>    DDD();
>> }
>>
>> Termination Analyzer HHH simulates its input until
>> it detects a non-terminating behavior pattern. When
>> HHH detects such a pattern it aborts its simulation
>> and returns 0.
>> </input to chat bots>
> 
> We see the invalid presumption in the input. There is no non-termination 
> behaviour in the input. 
You can see that I did not even hint at non
termination of the input. Four different Chatbots
all figured out on their own that the input to
HHH(DDD) is non terminating because this input
specifies recursive simulation.

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