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Path: nntp.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic,comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: Title: A Structural Analysis of the Standard Halting Problem Proof Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 08:33:07 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: <105lfij$3v8t8$4@dont-email.me> References: <105ht1n$36s20$1@dont-email.me> <eed26ffea811a639a76d0184321c57eafba746cd@i2pn2.org> <pI4fQ.147044$gKRf.71824@fx12.ams4> <105ipi1$67q$1@news.muc.de> <105j2ej$3dqi8$1@dont-email.me> <105j4jh$1fpb$1@news.muc.de> <105kskf$2pife$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 15:33:08 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="57c3b27179f1849700b8243c36bf1601"; logging-data="4170664"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+qXAvHomeZqTMkwcyU+4nl" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:UpebO9n7BiSAwpau6sC65YmldEs= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250721-2, 7/21/2025), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <105kskf$2pife$1@dont-email.me> On 7/21/2025 3:09 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote: > On 20/07/2025 17:13, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> Do you really think that for such a simple problem, known and >> understood by millions over nearly a century, any flaw would >> not have already been found long ago? > > You're right, of course, but the above argument is not as robust > as we might hope. > > "The number of human chromosomes was published by Painter in > 1923. By inspection through a microscope, he counted 24 pairs of > chromosomes, giving 48 in total. His error was copied by others, > and it was not until 1956 that the true number (46) was > determined by Indonesian-born cytogeneticist Joe Hin Tjio." > > And oscillating reactions were known to be impossible for quite a > while even after crank Belousov came up with one. > > And of course there's another problem: > >> Do you really think that for such a simple problem, known and >> understood by millions over nearly a century, any flaw would >> not have already been found long ago? > > Yes. That's /precisely/ what he really thinks. And he always will, no > matter what we tell him. > Because my reasoning is sound and every rebuttal either denied verified facts or changed the words that I said and rebutted these changed words. No one can find any example of any error in the gist of anything that I have been saying. I did have a few typos here and there. Joes tries to keep getting away with saying that HHH cannot possibly simulate itself simulating DDD. Richard almost always uses the strawman error. -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer