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Path: nntp.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: basic question about integrators in a loop (circle test) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2025 21:49:13 +1000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 56 Message-ID: <105qi7v$uoc5$1@dont-email.me> References: <87ms8z9b65.fsf@librehacker.com> <01es7khm7vjsmbbn9kt1j29tlsk4s6q80u@4ax.com> <105lsn5$1sfc$1@dont-email.me> <1rfu8r3.2mm2etn6oeuaN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <105nc2u$cs9u$1@dont-email.me> <1rfv85k.vu5sqa18f11bkN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <105o56q$gki0$1@dont-email.me> <1rfx5pa.1dcffog1v0dww4N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2025 13:49:21 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="22c30a71bee021872ecb65c340b7982a"; logging-data="1008005"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18ChgbNqp+gl2liHE5bQmTJfeRl6/bbON4=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:erJC/P0/VDG0m5m8Bcibn+BBNSM= X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250723-0, 23/7/2025), Outbound message In-Reply-To: <1rfx5pa.1dcffog1v0dww4N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus-Status: Clean On 23/07/2025 7:20 pm, Liz Tuddenham wrote: > Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote: > >> On 22/07/2025 6:21 pm, Liz Tuddenham wrote: >>> Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On 22/07/2025 5:28 am, Liz Tuddenham wrote: >>>>> Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> [...] > "According to the Oxford Learner's Dictionary, oxymoron is >>>>> defined as > â€Å"a phrase that combines two words that seem >>>>> to be the opposite of > each other >>>>> >>>>> I always thought it meant a Stupid Cow. >>>> >>>> An ox is male. A cow is female. It may be fashionable to ignore gender >>>> differences, but it is imprecise. >>> >>> Oxen are a type of bovine, bull and cow are the sexes. >> >> Oxen are usually castrated males. > > Some may be castrated males but, according to my dictionary they are > used for draft, for milk or for meat. The dictionaries I've consulted concentrated on the draft animal aspect. Ignorant people do use words on the basis of their idiosyncratic understanding of what they mean, but the intelligent ignorant do generally learn to do better. > Unless you are going to tell me > you have succesfully milked a bull, "Stupid Cow" makes sense. Since I've never been in the bovine artificial insemination business, I can't ever claim to have "milked" a bull. This has nothing to do with your bizarre equation of "stupid cow" which is purely English, with "oxymoron" which is comes to us from Greek. There is a word "boustrophedron" meaning "written from right to left and from left to right in alternate lines." which also comes to us from Greek, which does involve oxen, since the text is written onto the page in the same way that an ox plows a field, with the direction reversing every time the stream of text hits a page boundary. It's a compound of "bous" - ox - and "stophos" - turning. Electron beam microfabricators write their patterns in the same way, and for much the same reason - it takes time to get the beam/ox back to the other side of the field being written/plowed. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney