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Path: ...!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: [OT] Canada has *always* had Castle Doctrine Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2025 12:19:49 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 30 Message-ID: <10a1h76$3kjja$1@dont-email.me> References: <109vftl$2u0gj$5@dont-email.me> <109vhjl$2vjj1$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2025 16:19:50 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c92c760b74f5984470f72cdf85ffea5f"; logging-data="3821162"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/yXAI7d0Q8F7md5wBF+h01qY8BB1QMh7o=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:p9jNyydqTnE6CJ9M+CSKuxoTJPw= Content-Language: en-CA In-Reply-To: <109vhjl$2vjj1$3@dont-email.me> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 250912-2, 9/12/2025), Outbound message On 2025-09-11 6:14 p.m., BTR1701 wrote: > On Sep 11, 2025 at 2:45:24 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> > wrote: > >> Brian Lilley has done a relatively short, concise video proving that >> Canadian law *does* allow for self-defence and goes back to England in >> 1604 to prove it. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axWrCJDkz3I [7 minutes] > > You only have it inasmuch as you can use it without ending up in a prison > cell. > > That's the way it is in America too, isn't it? For example, there was a case in New York state recently where a guy had killed someone who drove on to his driveway. I believe the guy argued self-defence but the jury didn't buy it because there was no clear threat to the homeowner. The homeowner got a lengthy prison sentence. That seems reasonable since it's entirely possible the driver may have just wanted to pull in for a second to turn around or ask directions. Obviously, if the driver had gotten out of the car carrying a gun and was known to be an enemy of the homeowner, that would have been very different but in the absence of a clear threat, I would probably agree with a jury that said there wasn't sufficient justification for the shooting. -- Rhino