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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2024 13:15:01 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 22 Message-ID: <1142817911.749332013.853906.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <vd8o1s$178gk$5@dont-email.me> <llr46dFmeudU2@mid.individual.net> <vd9r10$1d6gq$4@dont-email.me> <vd9rub$18mq$2@gal.iecc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2024 22:15:02 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="261d6c3fdcc4d46236164f6ffe3d8eb0"; logging-data="1978172"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/kqDyISLaDVleZDtMopzHA" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.3.1 (iPad) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Y/dvYXE0kzvKUWda2IWb9y1K/z4= sha1:hf31GOkmikYYqAyaqkD0MAuodKw= Bytes: 2093 John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: > According to The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>: >> The need to speed up BASIC was why I learnt Assembler... > > Dartmouth BASIC on the GE 635 compiled your program into machine code > and then ran it, so it was pretty snappy. The compiler was so fast that > it wasn't worth keeping the objsct code around. They didn't have a linker > until they added a PL/I compiler that was as slow as PL/I compilers are. > > All this running 100 users on a machine the size of the KA-10 PDP-10. > >> Then I moved onto C, and that was the best of both worlds really > > C was in the sweet spot of being not all that great, but better than any of the > plausible alternatives at the time. > C was/is great for the low-level systems stuff, but then it started getting used for everything, and getting stuf added to greatly complexity it. -- Pete