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On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 9:15:11 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

> Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> On 16/03/2025 2:19 a.m., J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>> Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 14/03/2025 11:05 p.m., J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>> Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14/03/25 15:28, Ross Clark wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A little crossroads called Tirau (NZ) has a Big Dog (the tourist
>>>>>>> information office) and a couple of Big Sheep (a souvenir shop), all
>>>>>>> in corrugated iron. There's also a Shepherd, but he's not to scale,
>>>>>>> and not in typical NZ costume. (He's in front of a church.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/tirau-town.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nicely done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I visited Fiji I noticed that corrugated iron is a highly valued
>>>>>> construction material. I guess the native wood is unsuitable for
>>>>>> building, and maybe the clay is not the right sort for bricks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Guess they don't have any.
>>>>> You need glaciers for grinding rock to sand and clay.
>>>>
>>>> This can't be right. There is clay suitable for pottery in Fiji and many
>>>> other Pacific islands where there have never been glaciers.
>>>
>>> Mud is probably a more appropriate description.
>>
>> No, it's clay.
>>
>>> I doubt the suitability for good bricks and ceramics.
>>
>> Fine. It wasn't a question about what you'd consider "good", but
>> whether your grand generalization about clay was correct.
>>
>>  > (probably more appropriately called earthenware)
>> "Ceramics", "pottery" and "earthenware" would all be appropriate.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceramic
>> https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/1766/lapita-pottery
>> https://collections.qm.qld.gov.au/objects/CH37961/pot
>>
>>>>>> Importing timber and bricks would be hellishly expensive, I guess.
>>>>
>>>> They've got timber. Wood and leaves were traditional house-building
>>>> materials, after all.
>>>
>>> Of a kind. Anything better than palm trees?
>> Yes. Your comments suggest you don't know much about this part of the
>> world.
>
> Isn't knowing that it is all volcanic in origin enough?
> And (sub)tropical.
> As for clay, this is what is commonly understood as 'clay' minerals.
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clay_mineral>
> Volcanic rock otoh is something different.
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_rock>
...

Some of the rock on Fiji isn't volcanic or coral,
and there's clay, though maybe not much.

<https://earthjay.com/earthquakes/20180819_fiji/colley_hindle_19XX_volcano_tectonic_evolution_fiji_plateau.pdf>

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Jerry Friedman

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