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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: The set of necessary FISONs Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2025 22:38:40 -0500 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <11d862694b95d6f57edad5b1da4519b5333cdb86@i2pn2.org> References: <vmo1bs$1rnl$1@dont-email.me> <vosf9f$hjfh$4@dont-email.me> <f85884a59c9301bfc9d6a66fa935b74dc080ff24@i2pn2.org> <vot40r$lfa0$2@dont-email.me> <865ffa4c4c1091981c5b3b93ddf3dba690cd5ad2@i2pn2.org> <vp02g2$188u2$7@dont-email.me> <559d228c01ea290aec13e735ec85036862578165@i2pn2.org> <vp1lap$1l5b9$1@dont-email.me> <5220af0cb7d579f20d58809659d8dcb8d7ba046c@i2pn2.org> <vp28k5$1o28v$4@dont-email.me> <685c1274-e22f-409d-b39c-c3a5430c2f57@att.net> <vp528n$2bale$1@dont-email.me> <69f56ce0-08a2-4614-b102-e333175c643d@att.net> <vp6rg8$2o8sd$7@dont-email.me> <9a88665f-211f-4260-b585-97c72c7b6d1b@att.net> <vp7qea$2tofq$5@dont-email.me> <8bed122d8b355eff96158e6f5cb76cffcc42925c@i2pn2.org> <vp9hl1$3afuk$6@dont-email.me> <b8e72bea6b28cca53f4af0747a7fdd50dee59c4a@i2pn2.org> <vpadc7$3f0eh$2@dont-email.me> <4909c3c162f948930321987279d0e04864f68f9d@i2pn2.org> <vpc8hp$3su01$1@dont-email.me> <19fefec518c0b56123bb205075abc749f97d42d2@i2pn2.org> <vpclhh$3va9v$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2025 03:38:40 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1344311"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <vpclhh$3va9v$1@dont-email.me> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2841 Lines: 25 On 2/22/25 9:04 AM, WM wrote: > On 22.02.2025 13:15, Richard Damon wrote: > >> Peano's successors are not induction. >> >> Induction is the axiom that lets your prove that a set contains the >> set of Natural Numbers. It isn't a "construction" technique. > > Induction is the feature, proven or claimed, that an element exists in > the set and with any element also its successor. > > Regards, WM > Where do you get that from? The induction rule is the method used to prove that a statement P(n) is true for every natural number, by showing that P(0) is true, and that if P(n) is true, the P(n+1) must be true. Your claim is just the opposite of induction. All this shows is that you really don't understand what you are talking about. Perhaps it is a language issue, you just don't understand the language of actual Mathematics, but are trying to understand it form guesses an intuition to avoid the dangers of formal "Mathologies"