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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Newton: Photon falling from h meters increase its energy. Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 04:48:51 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <12bd0d7e9afe2f6a02aa76ed9149adbb@www.novabbs.com> References: <4af374770bb67b6951ef19c75b35fbad@www.novabbs.com> <1819b35cb5854fb7$83258$1308629$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <17a125a3e75f42ff91ef08afdab4e0a9@www.novabbs.com> <1819b79e1aa58c97$89507$1329657$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> <9e55d347a16ad439d5b2e75440ae1a6d@www.novabbs.com> <6782d853$0$28064$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <c2fdc44dd6b77812b78bd871c9bde8f3@www.novabbs.com> <4404fd8d88a2eacd658d92efeef4d6c2@www.novabbs.com> <vm3ncs$20493$1@dont-email.me> <7db98cab57f6050f8daf2f88b9bfdcdb@www.novabbs.com> <e61a2011de7dbcb68e105f2dfa60a148@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3512205"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="HcQFdl4zp4UQRQ9N18ivMn6Fl9V8n4SPkK4oZHLgYdQ"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Posting-User: a2f761a7401f13abeefca3440f16b2f27b708180 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$tnTGPu34nnkhUgFTbeILIedV0ZtCGhtLKNtR7U.iBqStQ8b0oPJu6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 5896 Lines: 116 On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 1:41:44 +0000, rhertz wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 0:36:33 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: > > <snip> > >> "This is exactly double the value given in 1911, and this doubling >> of values has given rise to many speculations, and to many and >> varied explanations, on the part of the relativists. >> An inspection of the formulas, which Einstein used, shows >> exactly what he did and how he derived this result. The essential >> factor in the formula is that for the rate of change of velocity >> along the wave-front 6c, 6x ; and this is the only factor in which >> any change can be made. All the other terms and factors of the >> formula are always identically the same." - Poor = "THE RELATIVITY >> DEFLECTION OF LIGHT!" > > Years ago, I posted that when Einstein published his 1915 paper on > Mercury, he included a couple of paragraphs announcing that he doubled > his 1911 value due to his work with GR. > > It's all on his 1915 paper, in a single line: Equation 7c. > > > > Einstein had it easy. He modified Newton's potential Φ = - GM/r for > Φ = - GM/r (1 + B^2/r^2), in his equation (7c). This was in geometrical > units. > > In physical units, Eq 7c is Φ(r) = - GMm/r [1 + B^2/(mcr)^2] > > Long story short: In the same paper, and using this change, he managed > to obtain Gerber's formula and 43" and, as a bonus, DOUBLED the > gravitational potential on the formula for deflection of starlight, used > in 1911. > > ψ(1911) = 1/c2 2GM/RS = 0.85 arcsec > ψ(1915) = 2 x ψ(1911) = 1/c2 4GM/RS = 1.75 arcsec > > The key for this "magic prediction" is simple. The extra (1 + B^2/r^2) > factor in Φ(r), in physical units, is [1 + B^2/(mcr)^2] > > > B = mr2ω is the constant angular momentum, under Newton's Law of > Gravitation, > > so > > Φ(r) = - GMm/r (1 + r^2ω^2/c^2) > > > He made Rs.ω = c at the perigee of the trajectory, at which the test > particle has maximum speed. > > But it implies a variable speed of light, besides that "photons" have > mass and suffer gravitational attraction. > > This is the Newtonian equation that Einstein seek, using 80% of the > paper, before changing for a new Φ: > > m [r^2 (dɸ/dt)^2 + (dr/dt)^2] - GMm/r = 2E (E < 0, the total energy of > the system, is CONSTANT). > > The above equations describe any elliptic, parabolic or hyperbolic > orbit, and was used by Einstein TWICE: > > 1) To get the final expression of the advance of Mercury's perihelion in > an orbit with e = 0.2025 and E < 0. > > 2) For the deflection of light, at the perigee of an hyperbolic > trajectory of a photon, with r = Rs, e >> 1, E > 0. > > Einstein REFUSED to show his calculations for 2) and only presented the > new value for deflection of light plus a lot of gobbledygook using GR. > Astronomers and physicists from ALL OVER the world asked Einstein to > present his calculations. Einstein NEVER delivered them. > > Why did Einstein refused to show his derivation? Because he had to > explain: > > 1) The use of light as "quanta of energy" (A.K.A. photons) having mass m > = hf/c^2. > > 2) The change of the bounded elliptic orbit of Mercury, with e = 0.2025 > into a highly eccentric hyperbolic orbit (e > 200,000), which passed by > the Sun at its perigee (r = RS). > > 3) The angular momentum at the perigee, B(RS) = m.RS.c. In this way, the > quotient between brackets of ψ(RS) became equal to 1, DOUBLING the > gravitational potential. > > 4) Making the angular velocity of the photon at the orbit's perigee: c = > RS. ωMAX, implied a VARIABLE SPEED OF LIGHT in the trajectory of the > photon: > c' = rω (only reaching c at r = RS). > > He had a LOT OF THINGS to explain. And because of the above points, his > ETERNAL SILENCE. > > > So, his announcement in 1915 came to the fact that in the modified > gravitational potential > > Φ(r) = - GMm/r (1 + r^2ω^2/c^2) > > > he made r.ω = c, for which Φ(r_sun) = - GMm/r_sun (1 + 1). > > Doubling the potential when starlight graze the Sun's surface DOUBLED > the 1911 Newtonian value, AT THE COST OF A VARIABLE SPEED OF LIGHT IN > THAT POINT. > > > He NEVER, EVER showed his calculations. That's why, in 1930, Poor was > calling him (LITERALLY) a fraudulent crock. Here is a response to Poor's 1926 article in 1929: THE RELATIVITY DEFLECTION OF LIGHT By Robert J. Trumpler