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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2025 00:08:38 -0500
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On 3/4/25 11:53 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 3/4/2025 10:45 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 3/4/25 7:42 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 3/4/2025 5:45 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>> On 3/4/25 9:32 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 3/4/2025 6:29 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/3/25 10:07 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> int DD()
>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
>>>>>>>    if (Halt_Status)
>>>>>>>      HERE: goto HERE;
>>>>>>>    return Halt_Status;
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _DD()
>>>>>>> [00002133] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>>>>> [00002134] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>>>>> [00002136] 51         push ecx      ; make space for local
>>>>>>> [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD
>>>>>>> [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD)
>>>>>>> [00002141] 83c404     add esp,+04
>>>>>>> [00002144] 8945fc     mov [ebp-04],eax
>>>>>>> [00002147] 837dfc00   cmp dword [ebp-04],+00
>>>>>>> [0000214b] 7402       jz 0000214f
>>>>>>> [0000214d] ebfe       jmp 0000214d
>>>>>>> [0000214f] 8b45fc     mov eax,[ebp-04]
>>>>>>> [00002152] 8be5       mov esp,ebp
>>>>>>> [00002154] 5d         pop ebp
>>>>>>> [00002155] c3         ret
>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly
>>>>>>> reach its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Proves that the input to HHH(DD) can be rejected as non-halting*
>>>>
>>>> No, it proves that the HHH that rejects the input, didn't do a 
>>>> correct simulation, and thus was looking at the wrong input, because 
>>>> you don't understand what a program is.
>>>>
>>>> DD only is non-halting if *THE* HHH (and there is only one at any 
>>>> time) never aborts. SInce HHH musts abort its emulation to "reject" 
>>>> the input, it proves it didn't do the needed correct emulation, and 
>>>> you are shown to be just a blantant liar.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the HHH that correctly emulated DD, can't be a decider and 
>>>>>> answer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also. "the HHH", defined in your Halt7.c doesn't do that, 
>>>>>
>>>>> The only valid rebuttal is to show all of the steps of
>>>>> exactly how DD correctly emulated by HHH reaches its
>>>>> own "ret" instruction.
>>>>>
>>>>> Failing to provide the above proves that you are clueless
>>>>> about this code.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Nope, I have shown why your logic is wrong, 
>>>
>>> If that was true you could show this with
>>> something besides rhetoric and double-talk.
>>>
>>
>> That you call all I say as just rhetoric just shows how stupid you are.
>>
> 
> DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly reach
> its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally.
> AND YOU CAN'T SHOW OTHERWISE
> 


Right, but the HHH that does that doesn't answer, and there is only one 
HHH in existance at a time in the given memory locations, so you claim 
is worthless and based on lies.