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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 10:54:41 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: <1339031952.749238272.928061.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <5mqdnZuGq4lgwm_7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vcub5c$36h63$1@dont-email.me> <36KdnVlGJu9VLW77nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <971448126.749088380.092448.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <vd5195$edas$1@dont-email.me> <59CJO.19674$MoU3.15170@fx36.iad> <vd6vto$r0so$1@dont-email.me> <iJEJO.198176$kxD8.81657@fx11.iad> <3hOdnWpQ649QMGr7nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@earthlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 19:54:42 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="20ef474fa749b5cdf37421ef054a9b68"; logging-data="1433240"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18qGzj9i/cmjt4Tz95W6RtE" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.3.1 (iPad) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Mz8cWELrbTBIQmFegsSIoVdbbu8= sha1:hQjNtFNMmKLgvpfSUVyPjkQMNV4= Bytes: 2856 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote: > On 9/27/24 4:38 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> On 2024-09-27, geodandw <geodandw@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 9/27/24 13:43, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>> >>>> On 2024-09-27, geodandw <geodandw@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Cobol was also very portable. >>>> >>>> As long as your destination compiler supports COMP-3. :-) >>> >>> Or your source computer didn't have COMP-3, or if you didn't use it. >> >> I was once called in to optimize a CPU-bound COBOL program. >> The genius who wrote it declared all subscripts as COMP-3. >> Changing them to COMP-4 knocked 30% off the execution time. > > Did COBOL even HAVE real "types" ??? > > It was not really a "sophisticated" language. > It was MEANT mostly for biz/commercial apps, > esp financial and scheduling. It was GOOD at > that - except for being TOO ugly/confusing in > the chase to be "simple/self-documenting". > > I don't hate COBOL - it HAD/HAS its place. > However the real-world implementation could > never live-up to "The Vision". > > COBOL could/can be "improved" - made more > efficient. But NOBODY is gonna DO that > these days. As such COBOL kinda becomes > like 'Latin' - an unchanging 'dead' lang. > This MAY be a good thing. > > I think they’ve added a lot to COBOL over the years - real subroutines with parameters instead pf just PERFORM. -- Pete