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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 12:04:40 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 47 Message-ID: <1343403396.751142472.767579.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> References: <vde36e$268qv$21@dont-email.me> <vdf6u1$2cn51$16@dont-email.me> <slrnvftfn4.51us.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <vdn5nd$3ssv4$16@dont-email.me> <slrnvfu75g.t6vq.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <kMedne0I3JBuxmL7nZ2dnZfqnPgLyJ2d@earthlink.com> <slrnvgdhcc.2nfc6.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <ve6pfp$2p1hd$8@dont-email.me> <ve8612$33lq0$3@dont-email.me> <ve9vga$3cbkr$4@dont-email.me> <mIdOO.204988$1m96.63811@fx15.iad> <vec4l3$3q4ms$5@dont-email.me> <criOO.380449$WOde.297877@fx09.iad> <20241014080601.00007478@gmail.com> <ln5gklF755tU4@mid.individual.net> <38fb5a91-5d00-be42-4bfe-2a05232a82c1@example.net> <ln7tooFijhpU2@mid.individual.net> <vemfq7$1qobu$5@dont-email.me> <venqec$24hhj$2@dont-email.me> <sFRPO.380393$FzW1.50024@fx14.iad> <mm96uk-us2.ln1@anthive.com> <veqne4$2n0ki$1@dont-email.me> <lnd6j5Fcf9jU3@mid.individual.net> <vetct1$388hc$9@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 21:04:41 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fe450107674df59c4520e7f2adc0d8b3"; logging-data="579803"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+F6UMlzgwmB21Hjm+jTflc" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.3.1 (iPad) Cancel-Lock: sha1:k2PHvyH4klWwq/JYlaqcQVG6vjc= sha1:v5vqJhVpORrZQpO0IVQ6Yx1K9ek= Bytes: 3676 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 17/10/2024 20:24, rbowman wrote: >> On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 11:03:48 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> They dont *care* what Donald is and has done. He doesn't preach to them >>> like some goddam pastor at a revivalist meeting. >>> >>> Or call them 'deplorable' or insult their intelligence. >> >> You may be trying for irony but there is a lot of truth in that. > > I wasn't being sarcastic. > > Trump supporters are prevalent on the Internet. They are perfectly > capable of sustaining intelligent conversation. > > That is as far as I can tell a reasonable description of what they think > and feel. That may be true, but often their thinking is informed by a collection of unhinged conspiracy theories. Their thinking may be logical, following from that, but they seem incapable of separating truth from fantasy. To bring this thread back to computing, I originally thought that the Internet democratizing what got published was a good thing, like giving the Erin Brockavichs of the world their chance. Instead, without the editorial control of “big media”, we’re getting a mostly concoction of half-baked ideas, crazy theories, and outright lies. Sure the media is biased, but the biases are known and can be accounted for and corrected. > > The same thought permeates the soft right here in Britain. The feeling > that they have been preached to and shat upon by moralising liberals who > have never done a plumbing course in their lives. > > And the Tory party - who ought to be their natural home, are simply no > better, > > Hence the rise of Reform allegedly now out polling Labour > -- Pete