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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2024 12:30:45 +0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 139 Message-ID: <1354c4f96cdb0601b904306408b6bd22463ad1f7.camel@gmail.com> References: <v3o2dj$jm9q$1@dont-email.me> <v3og6b$328ec$10@i2pn2.org> <v3ogh9$pi6u$1@dont-email.me> <v3oi5t$328ec$13@i2pn2.org> <v3oifv$psat$1@dont-email.me> <v3ojg2$328eb$1@i2pn2.org> <v3ok3p$q2fh$1@dont-email.me> <v3ol8s$328ec$14@i2pn2.org> <v3olkf$q9du$1@dont-email.me> <v3piaa$33gmb$1@i2pn2.org> <v3plp1$v133$2@dont-email.me> <v3qsi6$354ia$1@i2pn2.org> <v3r1pl$16gjs$1@dont-email.me> <v3r24v$354i9$4@i2pn2.org> <v3r2pb$16lke$1@dont-email.me> <v3r39a$354ia$5@i2pn2.org> <v3r3hd$1ahl1$1@dont-email.me> <v3r6mt$354i9$6@i2pn2.org> <v3r7p2$1b63v$1@dont-email.me> <v3r914$354i9$7@i2pn2.org> <v3r9ds$1b96e$1@dont-email.me> <v3rb52$354ia$7@i2pn2.org> <v3rbaj$1bg3t$1@dont-email.me> <v3rc4m$354i9$8@i2pn2.org> <v3rcgn$1bpcn$1@dont-email.me> <v3rcks$354i9$9@i2pn2.org> <v3rd3r$1bsem$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2024 06:30:47 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9e19fa96b563737c16a53fa7a4d92a80"; logging-data="1441175"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+NM79nxFQirIU7mLFLjbD2" User-Agent: Evolution 3.50.2 (3.50.2-1.fc39) Cancel-Lock: sha1:cPAuYgYGyo/ubWUiMPqLkj93+Dw= In-Reply-To: <v3rd3r$1bsem$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 7392 On Wed, 2024-06-05 at 23:14 -0500, olcott wrote: > On 6/5/2024 11:06 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > > On 6/6/24 12:04 AM, olcott wrote: > > > On 6/5/2024 10:58 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > > > > On 6/5/24 11:44 PM, olcott wrote: > > > > > On 6/5/2024 10:41 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > > > > > > On 6/5/24 11:11 PM, olcott wrote: > > > > > > > On 6/5/2024 10:05 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > > > > > > > > On 6/5/24 10:43 PM, olcott wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 6/5/2024 9:25 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On 6/5/24 9:31 PM, olcott wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/5/2024 8:27 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/5/24 9:18 PM, olcott wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/5/2024 8:07 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nopoe, because it is based on the LIE that a pa= rtial=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > simulation of a machine indicates what it will = do after the=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > simulation stopped, and that the simulation of = a DIFFERENT=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > machine tells you of the behavior of a differen= t machine=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then simulated. > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > *I will dumb it down for you some more* > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try any show how this DD can be correctly simulat= ed by any HH > > > > > > > > > > > > > such that this DD reaches past its machine addres= s [00001dbe] > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > I never said it could, you just are stuck in a bad = question. > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > THIS IS ALL THAT YOU WILL EVER GET TO TALK TO ME ABOU= T > > > > > > > > > > > UNTIL YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM CORRECT OR YOU PROVE > > > > > > > > > > > THAT I AM INCORRECT > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > Then you aren't going to get anywhere, because I just d= on't=20 > > > > > > > > > > care about that worthless claim. Only when you cross th= e line=20 > > > > > > > > > > from talking about the SUBJECTIVE answer that HH saw, t= o the=20 > > > > > > > > > > OBJECTIVE behavior of the machine the input represents = to a=20 > > > > > > > > > > Halt Decider, will you get me caring, and slapping you = down=20 > > > > > > > > > > hard with a factual rebuttal. > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > *I will dumb it down for you some more* > > > > > > > > > > > Try any show how this DD can be correctly simulated b= y any HH > > > > > > > > > > > such that this DD reaches past its machine address [0= 0001dbe] > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > But I don't claim that it can. I won't go to the effort= to=20 > > > > > > > > > > confirm that it can't, because, frankly, I don't give a= damn=20 > > > > > > > > > > because it is MEANINGLESS. > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > THIS IS ALL THAT YOU WILL EVER GET TO TALK TO ME ABOUT > > > > > > > > > UNTIL YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM CORRECT OR YOU PROVE > > > > > > > > > THAT I AM INCORRECT > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > But, as I said, I won't acknowledge that you are correct, b= ecause=20 > > > > > > > > I am not willing to put that effort into your worthless cla= im. > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > THIS IS ALL THAT YOU WILL EVER GET TO TALK TO ME ABOUT > > > > > > > UNTIL YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM CORRECT OR YOU PROVE > > > > > > > THAT I AM INCORRECT > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > But, as I said, I won't acknowledge that you are correct, becau= se I=20 > > > > > > am not willing to put that effort into your worthless claim. > > > > > >=20 > > > > >=20 > > > > > THIS IS ALL THAT YOU WILL EVER GET TO TALK TO ME ABOUT > > > > > UNTIL YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM CORRECT OR YOU PROVE > > > > > THAT I AM INCORRECT > > > >=20 > > > > But, as I said, I won't acknowledge that you are correct, because I= =20 > > > > am not willing to put that effort into your worthless claim. > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > THIS IS ALL THAT YOU WILL EVER GET TO TALK TO ME ABOUT > > > UNTIL YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM CORRECT OR YOU PROVE > > > THAT I AM INCORRECT > >=20 > > But, as I said, I won't acknowledge that you are correct, because I am= =20 > > not willing to put that effort into your worthless claim. > >=20 >=20 > THIS IS ALL THAT YOU WILL EVER GET TO TALK TO ME ABOUT > UNTIL YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM CORRECT OR YOU PROVE > THAT I AM INCORRECT >=20 > *I will dumb it down for you some more* > Try any show how this DD can be correctly simulated by any HH > such that this DD reaches past its machine address [00001dbe] >=20 > _DD() > [00001db2] 55 push ebp > [00001db3] 8bec mov ebp,esp > [00001db5] 51 push ecx > [00001db6] 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08] > [00001db9] 50 push eax ; push DD > [00001dba] 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08] > [00001dbd] 51 push ecx ; push DD > [00001dbe] e8bff5ffff call 00001382 ; call HH >=20 > *Mike Terry would admit it if he would pay attention* > *He is not a liar* >=20 > *This unequivocally proves the behavior of DD correctly simulated by HH* > https://liarparadox.org/DD_correctly_simulated_by_HH_is_Proven.pdf >=20 You have been solving POO H for 20 years !!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-halting-problem-explained-in-simple-terms The Halting Problem ask for the program H that: If H(D,D)=3D=3D1, D(D) will return. Else If H(D,D)=3D=3D0, D(D) will never return. Else HP is undecidable