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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: The set of necessary FISONs Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2025 10:46:54 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <135ea46ea9814ff4fd09af6f1a761642d00f4ef7@i2pn2.org> References: <vmo1bs$1rnl$1@dont-email.me> <aaeb6a0f-0a2c-41ee-aecd-24d1532da5eb@att.net> <vo1tbc$2sgko$1@dont-email.me> <11e634bd-c1d3-4d72-9e18-be6ca22b4742@att.net> <vo2pit$31hlr$1@dont-email.me> <aa038824-04c7-4fde-87f4-b9c3316d30a1@att.net> <vo32p6$3393i$1@dont-email.me> <999fb07e-7bef-4423-afeb-a08922613c65@att.net> <vo5cvb$3hukd$1@dont-email.me> <3e8f89376a9f8ec40a4caeb436e0018baf788953@i2pn2.org> <vo7bj6$7ne$2@dont-email.me> <682cef42d0c436caf3ce100d52add73943c62f9b@i2pn2.org> <vo8c7d$6be6$1@dont-email.me> <0019d81d4f7c2818294aa3cff41a86060c71313a@i2pn2.org> <voa120$ib74$2@dont-email.me> <1a7cae4301dc6f0a3c1ab7da4b43fc182ab0144d@i2pn2.org> <voafbm$md5b$2@dont-email.me> <fdee1d056cf5ce2bdf50e5d0709c033fa67ff075@i2pn2.org> <vochvs$15a3l$1@dont-email.me> <be4eb3b0b2c528f6a59b4259fa50d1095aad8229@i2pn2.org> <vod4dv$17utg$3@dont-email.me> <964f077f7e3c35ec8154676e0b0ed6ccf9afc48c@i2pn2.org> <14d5f717-688c-4404-9de0-49492803ed83@att.net> <vof820$1nmvg$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2025 10:46:54 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3720032"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3075 Lines: 29 Am Tue, 11 Feb 2025 11:16:31 +0100 schrieb WM: > On 11.02.2025 01:48, Jim Burns wrote: >> On 2/10/2025 7:05 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 2/10/25 10:02 AM, WM wrote: >>>> On 10.02.2025 13:37, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 2/10/25 4:47 AM, WM wrote: >> >>>>>> "Theorem B: >>>>>> Every embodiment of different numbers of the first and the second >>>>>> number class has a smallest number, a minimum." >>>>> So, your "Set of Required FISONs" isn't a set of the first or second >>>>> class, it is an empty set. >>>> So it is. >>> Which just shows that no particular FISON is needed. >>> Doesn't mean that you can't use a set of FISONs to make the set of >>> Natural Numbers. >> Yes. > Then name the first FISON that must exist according to Cantor's theorem, > see above. No FISON is necessary. >> ⎛ If no FISON is required ⎜ then no FISON is possible. > That is not necessarily so. But if a FISON or set of FISONs is possible > and not empty, then it has a first element. Find it. Overcome the result > of induction, i.e., infinity. Induction does not include infinity. -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.