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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Thoughts on industrial design Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 11:32:25 -0700 Lines: 49 Message-ID: <16hv0kt7l8gr0bggcp7r7039l0jotl7qmt@4ax.com> References: <vulg1t$10vvq$1@dont-email.me> <pkqs0kt7stbagv0sga6hb7cguvgt8jbtqq@4ax.com> <vumlg0$2220i$2@dont-email.me> <vuofrl$3qis2$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net FoaIq37eUcvduzAsW0vHZQGHt/+MUnT2rSKh1fvjyGwy0Euxx3 Cancel-Lock: sha1:3eCp/zkRvMZRe1VARVsmGcG/iMs= sha256:AA0J79zoa8Q3CGIEjhyMLc9DbD+2iAPRjSI96gBRMoM= User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 14:02:28 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> wrote: >On 4/27/2025 9:26 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >> On 4/27/2025 2:32 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: >>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2025 09:47:23 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>> >>>> He did dump the slushbox for an actual gearbox, which is nice. >>> >>> Yep. I looked around for a stick shift model. Except for my first >>> car, all have been stick shifts. Driving an automatic makes me feel >>> like I'm the passenger instead of the driver. With a stick shift, I'm >>> part of the machine. If I live long enough to need a new car, it will >>> probably be another stick shift. >> >> I got in a conversation with a Tesla owner last week. He proudly showed >> me a video shot from his driver's seat showing the car self-driving from >> his garage to a coffee shop. The ultimate non-driving experience! >> >> I've never owned a car with automatic transmission. Of course, my >> current EV has only one fixed ratio reduction gear, so I've moved beyond >> playing with multiple ratios. Just step on the gas ... no, throttle ... >> no, accelerator, and it goes. > >Can you call it "stepping on the gas" in an EV? "What phrase will replace "step on the gas!" once vehicles are all electric?" <https://www.quora.com/What-phrase-will-replace-step-on-the-gas-once-vehicles-are-all-electric> "Step on the accelerator" seems to be the consensus, although "step on the rotary encoder" would be more technically correct. Model S <https://service.tesla.com/docs/ModelS/ServiceManual/Palladium/en-us/GUID-45B8060C-F262-452F-9694-CFB7C87F33EC.html> Model Y <https://service.tesla.com/docs/ModelY/ServiceManual/en-us/GUID-8E18B453-7EBF-417C-B0C2-BC2CDAA2A1C1.html> Marginally better photos: <https://www.ebay.com/itm/144674953544> It looks like a rotary encoder, but I'm not certain. >> Half of my bikes are friction shifting, which is a vaguely similar issue >> for discussion. -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558