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On 3/8/24 8:40 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <usgbfr$1vp6f$4@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 3/6/24 12:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <usa2h0$g16c$5@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/4/24 1:58 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2024 at 5:56:21 AM PST, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Republicans themselves said this is the most far reaching bill, and
>>>>>> includes everything they've been asking for for 20 years.
>>>>>
>>>>> The week Biden took office, he issued 94 executive orders to open the
>>>>> border and stand down enforcement of immigration law.
>>>>>
>>>>> Until Biden rescinds those EOs, any claims he makes that he wants to
>>>>> address illegal immigration are nothing but lies.
>>>
>>>> So answer his question. What was in the bill that was bad?
>>>
>>> I already did an in-depth analysis of this abomination several weeks
>>> ago, which you completely ignored and only responded to by insulting
>>> Trump as per usual. Why should I do it all again just for you to ignore
>>> it again?
>>>
>>> Oh, hell, hope springs eternal and it's easy to copy and paste so here
>>> goes:
>>>
>>>> The Republicans got most of what they wanted and that still wasn't
>>>> good enough
>>>
>>> Of course it wasn't good enough. And I don't know who you're referring
>>> to specifically by 'the Republicans' but anyone who isn't a RINO got
>>> next to nothing from this bill with regard to border security. And
>>> that's being generous.
>>>
>>> Even as hundreds of thousands of illegals stream across the border every
>>> month, including thousands of gang members recently kicked out of prison
>>> in places like El Salvador, looking for a friendlier place to commit
>>> their crimes, this 'border deal' would have done absolutely nothing to
>>> secure the border.
>>>
>>> First, it's important to emphasize that no 'border deal' is necessary in
>>> the first place. Under existing law, including the Immigration and
>>> Nationality Act of 1952, the president of the United States has the
>>> authority to turn every single illegal alien away at the border if he
>>> determines it's necessary to safeguard the country, to include refugees.
>>> There is no requirement that we entertain millions of fraudulent asylum
>>> claims-- or even legitimate asylum claims, as rare as those may be.
>>>
>>> There is no legal requirement that we allow a single non-citizen into
>>> this country. Period.
>>>
>>> All that's necessary to secure the border is for the president of the
>>> United States to start doing his damn job and enforcing the law, to
>>> start using the power that he *already* legitimately and
>>> constitutionally has. It doesn't need to be complicated. We just need to
>>> start enforcing existing laws as they stand.
>>>
>>> But if the White House actually adopted this simple and straightforward
>>> solution, two things would happen:
>>>
>>> (1) The Democrat Party would lose out on millions of future loyal voters
>>> once the next stage of their plan is implemented: the 'path to
>>> citizenship' for all the illegals we let in and who now will be
>>> described as leading an 'unfair' twilight existence in our society which
>>> can only be solved by making them citizens. Democrats' longstanding
>>> plans for demographic replacement at the polls would be stymied.
>>>
>>> (2) Congress would miss out on a chance to launder hundreds of millions
>>> of dollars and Congress never misses out on an opportunity like that.
>>>
>>> So here we are.
>>>
>>> The bill proposed in the Senate would allocate another $60 billion
>>> dollars in military aid to Ukraine and $14 billion to Israel. (We
>>> already give Israel billions every year-- what have they been doing with
>>> that? Where has that money gone that we need to dump $14 billion more on
>>> their doorstep?) That's a grand total of $74 billion going to secure the
>>> borders of other countries. By comparison, the bill only allocates $20
>>> billion for U.S. border security.
>>>
>>> So to restate for the slow kids in the back of the room: Our leaders are
>>> proposing to spend roughly 400% more on securing the borders of two
>>> other foreign countries than they are on securing the border of our own
>>> country.
>>>
>>> And it gets worse. Because even the money that's supposedly going for
>>> our border security will actually in practice only facilitate the entry
>>> of millions of more illegal aliens into the U.S. Specifically, the bill
>>> allocates $2.3 billion for something called "refugee and entry
>>> assistance activities" by giving "grants or contracts to qualified
>>> organizations and non-profit entities to provide culturally and
>>> linguistically appropriate services, including housing, medical, and
>>> legal assistance and ease management assistance". (Ease management
>>> assistance? WTF? Why am I paying for that?) So that's more than two
>>> billion dollars to the left-wing 'non-profit' organizations that exist
>>> principally to find ways to sneak as many illegals into this country as
>>> possible.
>>>
>>> By doing so, this bill actually creates more incentives for illegals to
>>> come here in the first place.
>>>
>>> One of the highlights of the bill is that it requires the Executive
>>> Branch to close the border on an emergency basis if the number of
>>> illegal entries exceeds 5000 in one week or 8500 in one day.
>>>
>>> Except the bill also gives Joe Biden the authority to waive this
>>> emergency requirement at any time at his discretion. So of course it
>>> will never be enforced. He and DHS Secretary Mayorkas could effectively
>>> just ignore this entire section of the law if it were passed.
>>>
>>> The bill also doesn't count unaccompanied minors from countries other
>>> than Mexico and Canada toward the totals necessary for border closings.
>>> In other words, a significant percentage of illegals from Haiti, Cuba,
>>> Honduras, Pakistan, China, etc. simply don't count. We could have 20,000
>>> of those show up in one day and it wouldn't count.
>>>
>>> And on top of that, the bill doesn't *actually* close the border, even
>>> if this fraudulent 5000-illegal threshold is reached. Per one of the
>>> bill's co-authors, Senator Chris Murphy: "The bill contains a
>>> requirement that the president funnel asylum claims to the land ports of
>>> entry when more than 5000 people cross in a day. The border never closes
>>> but claims must be processed at the ports."
>>>
>>> So basically even if these arbitrary numbers are reached, the border
>>> never closes. The illegals are just re-directed to processing centers
>>> where they are then let into the country. It's a complete scam by
>>> design. And a scam that's designed to last for a long time, given the
>>> bill's 3-year sunset provision. The idea being that if Trump does get
>>> re-elected, he'd be bound by the terms of this deal and couldn't do
>>> crazy things like ACTUALLY shut down the border and stop this
>>> never-ending firehose of illegals.
>>>
>>> In one key respect, this bill would actually *lessen* the
>>> already-minimal standards for allowing illegals into the country. Right
>>> now, people applying for asylum need to show "a significant possibility
>>> that they can establish a credible fear of persecution on the basis of
>>> race, national origin, political beliefs, etc." Not a high standard. It
>>> doesn't require them to provide any actual evidence of their claims.
>>> Just make a claim, which they've been coached to say and which they've
>>> rehearsed, and then get into the country. But this border bill would
>>> lower that standard even further, if that's possible, from a
>>> "significant" possibility of persecution to merely a "reasonable"
>>> possibility of persecution. And reasonable is just another way of saying
>>> 'plausible'. In other words, it's a bar that anyone from anywhere can
>>> clear. There's no way that anyone claiming asylum will ever get turned
>>> away if that's the standard.
>>>
>>> The bill is an abomination that makes the border *less* secure than it
>>> already is, which is a remarkable feat that few, if any, people imagined
>>> was even possible.
>>>
>>> Thank god the House Republicans said the bill was dead on arrival. But
>>> it doesn't begin to explain why Senate Republicans thought there was
>>> anything here that could possibly be considered good for America.
>>>
>>> It's as if the Senate is made up of politicians who despise their own
>>> citizens and whose top priority is the safety of foreigners in other
>>> countries thousands of miles from their own shores. And they know it.
>>>
>>> When you confront them on why they've utterly failed at the border, they
>>> don't even try and justify their behavior. They just call you a racist
>>> for even asking the question. There's no political calculation that
>>> would explain their support for this nonsense. The American people,
>>> Democrats and Republicans alike are overwhelmingly upset about what's
>>> going on at the border. There's no support for it.
>>>
>>> Polls clearly show that no one's buying the idea that we need a nearly
>>> $100 billion giveaway to Ukraine and Israel in order to do something as
>>> basic as enforcing the law here in America.
>>>
>>> Nobody seriously thinks that it's appropriate to pay foreign countries
>>> vast sums of money to secure their borders while we allocate a fraction
>>> of that money to open up our own borders even more. Most Americans want
>>> our leaders to prioritize our country before other countries. It is not
>>> an unreasonable thing for us to want.
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