Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 12:21:35 -0400
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On 3/11/2024 8:26 AM, FPP wrote:
> On 3/10/24 3:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <uskd6v$300lk$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/8/24 9:40 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> In article <usgbfr$1vp6f$4@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/6/24 12:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> In article <usa2h0$g16c$5@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/4/24 1:58 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2024 at 5:56:21 AM PST, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Republicans themselves said this is the most far reaching bill, 
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> includes everything they've been asking for for 20 years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The week Biden took office, he issued 94 executive orders to 
>>>>>>>> open the
>>>>>>>> border and stand down enforcement of immigration law.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Until Biden rescinds those EOs, any claims he makes that he 
>>>>>>>> wants to
>>>>>>>> address illegal immigration are nothing but lies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So answer his question. What was in the bill that was bad?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I already did an in-depth analysis of this abomination several weeks
>>>>>> ago, which you completely ignored and only responded to by insulting
>>>>>> Trump as per usual. Why should I do it all again just for you to 
>>>>>> ignore
>>>>>> it again?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, hell, hope springs eternal and it's easy to copy and paste so 
>>>>>> here
>>>>>> goes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Republicans got most of what they wanted and that still wasn't
>>>>>>> good enough
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course it wasn't good enough. And I don't know who you're 
>>>>>> referring
>>>>>> to specifically by 'the Republicans' but anyone who isn't a RINO got
>>>>>> next to nothing from this bill with regard to border security. And
>>>>>> that's being generous.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even as hundreds of thousands of illegals stream across the border 
>>>>>> every
>>>>>> month, including thousands of gang members recently kicked out of 
>>>>>> prison
>>>>>> in places like El Salvador, looking for a friendlier place to commit
>>>>>> their crimes, this 'border deal' would have done absolutely 
>>>>>> nothing to
>>>>>> secure the border.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First, it's important to emphasize that no 'border deal' is 
>>>>>> necessary in
>>>>>> the first place. Under existing law, including the Immigration and
>>>>>> Nationality Act of 1952, the president of the United States has the
>>>>>> authority to turn every single illegal alien away at the border if he
>>>>>> determines it's necessary to safeguard the country, to include 
>>>>>> refugees.
>>>>>> There is no requirement that we entertain millions of fraudulent 
>>>>>> asylum
>>>>>> claims-- or even legitimate asylum claims, as rare as those may be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no legal requirement that we allow a single non-citizen into
>>>>>> this country. Period.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All that's necessary to secure the border is for the president of the
>>>>>> United States to start doing his damn job and enforcing the law, to
>>>>>> start using the power that he *already* legitimately and
>>>>>> constitutionally has. It doesn't need to be complicated. We just 
>>>>>> need to
>>>>>> start enforcing existing laws as they stand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But if the White House actually adopted this simple and 
>>>>>> straightforward
>>>>>> solution, two things would happen:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (1) The Democrat Party would lose out on millions of future loyal 
>>>>>> voters
>>>>>> once the next stage of their plan is implemented: the 'path to
>>>>>> citizenship' for all the illegals we let in and who now will be
>>>>>> described as leading an 'unfair' twilight existence in our society 
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> can only be solved by making them citizens. Democrats' longstanding
>>>>>> plans for demographic replacement at the polls would be stymied.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (2) Congress would miss out on a chance to launder hundreds of 
>>>>>> millions
>>>>>> of dollars and Congress never misses out on an opportunity like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So here we are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The bill proposed in the Senate would allocate another $60 billion
>>>>>> dollars in military aid to Ukraine and $14 billion to Israel. (We
>>>>>> already give Israel billions every year-- what have they been 
>>>>>> doing with
>>>>>> that? Where has that money gone that we need to dump $14 billion 
>>>>>> more on
>>>>>> their doorstep?) That's a grand total of $74 billion going to 
>>>>>> secure the
>>>>>> borders of other countries. By comparison, the bill only allocates 
>>>>>> $20
>>>>>> billion for U.S. border security.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So to restate for the slow kids in the back of the room: Our 
>>>>>> leaders are
>>>>>> proposing to spend roughly 400% more on securing the borders of two
>>>>>> other foreign countries than they are on securing the border of 
>>>>>> our own
>>>>>> country.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And it gets worse. Because even the money that's supposedly going for
>>>>>> our border security will actually in practice only facilitate the 
>>>>>> entry
>>>>>> of millions of more illegal aliens into the U.S. Specifically, the 
>>>>>> bill
>>>>>> allocates $2.3 billion for something called "refugee and entry
>>>>>> assistance activities" by giving "grants or contracts to qualified
>>>>>> organizations and non-profit entities to provide culturally and
>>>>>> linguistically appropriate services, including housing, medical, and
>>>>>> legal assistance and ease management assistance". (Ease management
>>>>>> assistance? WTF? Why am I paying for that?) So that's more than two
>>>>>> billion dollars to the left-wing 'non-profit' organizations that 
>>>>>> exist
>>>>>> principally to find ways to sneak as many illegals into this 
>>>>>> country as
>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By doing so, this bill actually creates more incentives for 
>>>>>> illegals to
>>>>>> come here in the first place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One of the highlights of the bill is that it requires the Executive
>>>>>> Branch to close the border on an emergency basis if the number of
>>>>>> illegal entries exceeds 5000 in one week or 8500 in one day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Except the bill also gives Joe Biden the authority to waive this
>>>>>> emergency requirement at any time at his discretion. So of course it
>>>>>> will never be enforced. He and DHS Secretary Mayorkas could 
>>>>>> effectively
>>>>>> just ignore this entire section of the law if it were passed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The bill also doesn't count unaccompanied minors from countries other
>>>>>> than Mexico and Canada toward the totals necessary for border 
>>>>>> closings.
>>>>>> In other words, a significant percentage of illegals from Haiti, 
>>>>>> Cuba,
>>>>>> Honduras, Pakistan, China, etc. simply don't count. We could have 
>>>>>> 20,000
>>>>>> of those show up in one day and it wouldn't count.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And on top of that, the bill doesn't *actually* close the border, 
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> if this fraudulent 5000-illegal threshold is reached. Per one of the
>>>>>> bill's co-authors, Senator Chris Murphy: "The bill contains a
>>>>>> requirement that the president funnel asylum claims to the land 
>>>>>> ports of
>>>>>> entry when more than 5000 people cross in a day. The border never 
>>>>>> closes
>>>>>> but claims must be processed at the ports."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So basically even if these arbitrary numbers are reached, the border
>>>>>> never closes. The illegals are just re-directed to processing centers
>>>>>> where they are then let into the country. It's a complete scam by
>>>>>> design. And a scam that's designed to last for a long time, given the
>>>>>> bill's 3-year sunset provision. The idea being that if Trump does get
>>>>>> re-elected, he'd be bound by the terms of this deal and couldn't do
>>>>>> crazy things like ACTUALLY shut down the border and stop this
>>>>>> never-ending firehose of illegals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In one key respect, this bill would actually *lessen* the
>>>>>> already-minimal standards for allowing illegals into the country. 
>>>>>> Right
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