Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 15:47:56 -0400
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Subject: Re: Canada to Start Punishing People for Pre-Crime
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On 3/13/2024 10:22 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <17bc7ef34c89321a$26$2906873$52d51861@news.newsdemon.com>,
>   moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 3/13/2024 7:25 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>> On 3/13/2024 4:14 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article
>>>>> <17bc6a65e0fefe3d$133203$1098985$c8d58268@news.newsdemon.com>,
>>>>> moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/12/2024 11:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <75r1vidlcuq3nd6lsnd4o1s254bn9khpgu@4ax.com>,
>>>>>>> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 12:10:11 -0400, Rhino
>>>>>>>> <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A bill passed earlier in Trudeau's Reign of Error made people
>>>>>>>>> eligible for two years in prison for "mis-gendering" (i.e. correctly
>>>>>>>>> identifying the gender of an individual). They got away with tha
>>>>>>>>> so now they've upped the ante to put us in prison for life for
>>>>>>>>> hate speech.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suppose I could be in trouble then since I have publicly and online
>>>>>>>> denounced the Gladue decision and the UNDRIP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has anyone pointed out to Trudeau how ironic it is that a guy who has
>>>>>>> been caught in blackface is now proposing life sentences for hate
>>>>>>> speech?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has anyone suggested he lead by example and check himself into the
>>>>>>> nearest maximum security prison?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trudeau's blackface wasn't a clear expression of hate ...which 'hate
>>>>>> speech' presumably is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, there's always an excuse for why "it's different when we do it".
>>>>>
>>>>> Ask any BLM/NAACP/black racial grievance group if they consider
>>>>> appearing blackface to be hate and I bet they have a different standard
>>>>> than you do. And the rules of political correctness say their definition
>>>>> controls.
>>>>
>>>> No, there isn't "always an excuse" for why it might be "different".
>>>> Consider, for example, the recent discussion of RuPaul's book-banning.
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile, the question of 'hate' is determined by the offender's state
>>>> of mind, not the offendee's.
>>>
>>> Not according to all the woke DEI training everyone has to go through these
>>> days. Your intent doesn't matter. It's the offended person's feelings that
>>> matter.
>>>
>>> That's why people can get fired for using the word niggardly. Doesn't
>>> matter if the word has no racial meaning. Doesn't matter that the person
>>> who used it had no intent to offend. All that matters is that a stupid
>>> person with a stunted vocabulary was offended.
>>
>> 'Training' is presumably to let people know what things might be
>> unexpectedly injurious.
> 
> No, they don't go through a list of what's offensive. They just tell you
> that it doesn't matter what you meant or intended. Only the offended
> person's thoughts and feelings matter.
> 
>> 'Hate' is what might be inferred of someone who does such things despite
>> already knowing.
>>
>> By now, we'd both bet that 'niggardly' is used primarily to taunt.
> 
> Presumption of guilt. One of America's core values, amirite?

Expectation isn't presumption.