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Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 09:00:31 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: ? ? ? Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math References: <1HWE6H1jV8YTvxfaaL7fnCCcpe8@jntp> <l45ek0Fe0s6U1@mid.individual.net> <urobnk$3v1g$1@dont-email.me> <l4ak2fF7mb7U1@mid.individual.net> <abd1af5f6c6e172db813996bbc8a1fbd@www.novabbs.com> <l4pd6iFh9qrU1@mid.individual.net> <17ba17198d38202d$39429$138080$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <65E8186D.2220@ix.netcom.com> <65E81BB3.3B9B@ix.netcom.com> <65E81EFB.3C55@ix.netcom.com> <l4qmlfFn6jmU1@mid.individual.net> <17ba368e6628ddbc$38447$141478$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <l4t6hpF4bo3U1@mid.individual.net> <17ba8285aef2897a$523$155296$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <l4vv9tFhbj7U1@mid.individual.net> <17babf055ed1f074$1$167876$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> <l52gkhFt900U1@mid.individual.net> <17bb60d6786e33d8$193$165553$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> <l5ahrlF5rlhU1@mid.individual.net> <17bc02a8a099dba1$107$163722$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <l5fmo2FturcU1@mid.individual.net> <17bc94fe2ae8ef1c$195$163722$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <l5ni4hF5e44U1@mid.individual.net> Content-Language: pl From: Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> In-Reply-To: <l5ni4hF5e44U1@mid.individual.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 45 Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!tr1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.eu1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 08:00:31 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 2811 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <17bd7e6ae9f8f514$511$165553$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 3258 W dniu 17.03.2024 o 07:55, Thomas Heger pisze: > Am 14.03.2024 um 09:42 schrieb Maciej Wozniak: >> W dniu 14.03.2024 o 08:24, Thomas Heger pisze: >> >>>>>> I don't give a damn to it. So, what kind of objects >>>>>> does use time? Does a rock do? What for? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 'timelike stable' is a requirement, which all material objects have to >>>>> fullfil. >>>> >>>>> Since 'timelike stable' requires time (actually a certain 'axis of >>>>> time') >>>> >>>> So, a rock is using time to be "timelike stable". >>>> How does it use it? >>>> And what is this "time" of yours? Are UTC, TAI, a zone >>>> time - times, or are they something else? >>>> >>> >>> I regard matter (e.g. particles) as 'timelike stable patterns' (of/in >>> spacetime). >>> >>> Rock is more a crystal than a particle, what is an ensamble of atoms. >>> >>> A particle is modelled as 'timelike stable' because this would alllow a >> >> >> Modelled by a rock, or modelled by us? >> Who or what is using "time" concept here? > ?? > > Natur is not a modell, but the thing, which we like to modell. So, who, or what, can use time to model? >> So, are UTC, TAI, zone times - times? Or >> are they something else? > > Time zones are something else. Time zones surely are. How about zone times? Are they times or are they something else?