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From: Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
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W dniu 17.03.2024 o 21:03, The Starmaker pisze:
> Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>
>> W dniu 17.03.2024 o 07:55, Thomas Heger pisze:
>>> Am 14.03.2024 um 09:42 schrieb Maciej Wozniak:
>>>> W dniu 14.03.2024 o 08:24, Thomas Heger pisze:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't give a damn to it. So, what kind of objects
>>>>>>>> does use time? Does a rock do? What for?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 'timelike stable' is a requirement, which all material objects have to
>>>>>>> fullfil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since 'timelike stable' requires time (actually a certain 'axis of
>>>>>>> time')
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, a rock is using time to be "timelike stable".
>>>>>> How does it use it?
>>>>>> And what is this "time" of yours? Are UTC, TAI, a zone
>>>>>> time - times, or are they something else?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I regard matter (e.g. particles) as 'timelike stable patterns' (of/in
>>>>> spacetime).
>>>>>
>>>>> Rock is more a crystal than a particle, what is an ensamble of atoms.
>>>>>
>>>>> A particle is modelled as 'timelike stable' because this would alllow a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Modelled by a rock, or modelled by us?
>>>> Who or what is using "time" concept  here?
>>> ??
>>>
>>> Natur is not a modell, but the thing, which we like to modell.
>>
>> So, who, or what, can use time to model?
>>
>>>> So, are UTC, TAI, zone times - times? Or
>>>> are they something else?
>>>
>>> Time zones are something else.
>>
>> Time zones surely are. How about zone times?
>> Are they times or are they something else?
> 
> 
> Time zones are just...shadows.

Nobody is asking about time zones, or about shadows.
Once again: zone times - are they ar aren't they
times?


> The numbers of 't' are just values earthlings put on a shadow.
> 
> Is it the Sun's fault earthlings put 'numbers' on shadows?
> 
> 
> The Sun sez, "Hey, look a dat, they are now putting numbers on my shadows!"
> 
> The Sun sez, "It's just a shadow!!!!"
> 
> The Moon sez, "Hey Sun, look at me.. I'm a quarter!!"

The Sun says, the Moon says and an idiot hear voices.