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Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2024 12:09:20 -0500
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Subject: Re: Baltimore Bridge
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On 3/31/24 8:14 AM, FPP wrote:
> On 3/30/24 3:58 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <uu9csk$1363u$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/29/24 1:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> In article <uu6im7$b577$8@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/28/24 2:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> In article <uu4adb$3mth9$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>     "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:55:30 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just saw on the news that Joe Biden has pledged that the 
>>>>>>>>>> government
>>>>>>>>>> will "pay the entire cost" of rebuilding the Baltimore bridge.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Huh? Shouldn't the shipping company and its insurance agency 
>>>>>>>>>> foot the
>>>>>>>>>> bill? It's like he just can't wait for any opportunity to fuck 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> taxpayer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And when it's rebuilt, obviously it can't be renamed the 
>>>>>>>>>> Francis Scott
>>>>>>>>>> Key Bridge. I mean, "old straight racist white guy", amirite? 
>>>>>>>>>> So what
>>>>>>>>>> will its new name be?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I submit the "Saint George Floyd of Fentanyl Memorial Bridge".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The federal government can act to get repairs started today 
>>>>>>>>> while the
>>>>>>>>> lawyers act to collect any money due from the company/insurance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The bridge won't be repaired. It'll be 5 to 7 years at least.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's an article from the Baltimore Sun. Turn off javascript to 
>>>>>>> read.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.baltimoresun.com/2024/03/27/how-long-to-rebuild-key-bridge/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ignore "rebuild" in the headline. No one is saying it can be 
>>>>>>> rebuilt.
>>>>>>> It's going to be replaced with something brand new. I'm sure the
>>>>>>> piers will both be relocated closer to shore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And higher, too. I drove across the Key Bridge regularly when I 
>>>>>> was a DC
>>>>>> denizen and it was kinda scary how high up you got with seemingly 
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> little to stop you from going over the side if you lost control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The replacement will have to take into account larger vessels and 
>>>>>>> sea
>>>>>>> level rise
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which is non-existent pretty much everywhere. There's been no sea 
>>>>>> level
>>>>>> rise over the last 12 years at the beach down the street from me; 
>>>>>> when I
>>>>>> visited Miami's South Beach two years ago, the ocean was in the same
>>>>>> place it was in the pictures of my visit 20 years earlier (despite
>>>>>> AlGore's insistence that Miami would be underwater by 2011); Plymouth
>>>>>> Rock isn't underwater; the water level around the base of the 
>>>>>> Statue of
>>>>>> Liberty hasn't changed since it was erected, etc., etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> This has been explained to you for decades. Decades...
>>>>
>>>> Liar.
>>
>>> Over and over and over and you still repeat the same old bullshit as
>>> everything around us goes to shit.
>>
>> Given that the enviro-kooks have been predicting sea level rise since
>> the late 90s, even famously direly warning that Miami would be
>> underwater by 2011, one would think that there would be *some* evidence
>> of a, ya know, sea level rise.
>>
> 
> Well, genius, NOAA (you know, REAL experts) say you're full of shit.


It looks like we've got NOAA vs. don't-know-a.


> 
>> Global sea level has been rising over the past century, and the rate 
>> has increased in recent decades. In 2014, global sea level was  2.6 
>> inches 67 mm above the 1993 average—the highest annual average in the 
>> satellite record (1993-present). Sea level continues to rise at a rate 
>> of  about one-eighth of an inch 3.2 mm per year.
>>
>> Higher sea levels mean that deadly and destructive storm surges push 
>> farther inland than they once did, which also means more frequent 
>> nuisance flooding. Disruptive and expensive, nuisance flooding is 
>> estimated to be from 300 percent to 900 percent more frequent within 
>> U.S. coastal communities than it was just 50 years ago.
>>
>> The two major causes of global sea level rise are thermal expansion 
>> caused by warming of the ocean (since water expands as it warms) and 
>> increased melting of land-based ice, such as glaciers and ice sheets. 
>> The ocean is absorbing more than 90 percent of the increased 
>> atmospheric heat associated with emissions from human activity.
> 
> And THEY don't play at knowing what they're talking about like you do.
> You've been told this for decades.
> 
>> With continued ocean and atmospheric warming, sea levels will likely 
>> rise for many centuries at rates higher than that of the current 
>> century.  In the United States, almost 40 percent of the population 
>> lives in relatively high-population-density coastal areas, where sea 
>> level plays a role in flooding, shoreline erosion, and hazards from 
>> storms. Globally, eight of the world's 10 largest cities are near a 
>> coast, according to the U.N. Atlas of the Oceans.
> 
> And you've been told this for decades.
>