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Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2024 03:26:02 -0500
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Subject: Re: Jimmy Kimmel Calls USA "Filthy And Disgusting" After Traveling to Japan: "We Are Like Hogs Compared to the Japanese"
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On 4/4/24 9:54 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <20240404213809.0000331f@example.com>,
>   Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 04 Apr 2024 18:22:48 -0700
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <uunf55$v0c0$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/4/24 4:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <uumno6$p8sf$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>>    
>>>>>> Late-night host Jimmy Kimmel said he's looking at America in a
>>>>>> new light after a recent visit to Japan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 56-year-old said his trip abroad made him realize that the
>>>>>> U.S. is unsanitary compared to the land of the rising sun.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "After traveling to Japan, I realize that this place, this USA
>>>>>> we're always
>>>>>> chanting about, is a filthy and disgusting country," he said
>>>>>> during his monologue on Monday night's episode of "Jimmy Kimmel
>>>>>> Live."
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with him. My trip to Tokyo was an eye-opener. I've never
>>>>> seen a city so clean and beautiful with pleasant, polite, happy
>>>>> people everywhere you go. Its only drawback was that-- of all the
>>>>> places I've been around the world-- it's one of the harder cities
>>>>> to get around and function in if you don't speak the language. I
>>>>> thought at the time that if I spoke and read Japanese, I'd
>>>>> consider living in Tokyo for good if I could.
>>>>>
>>>>> Coming back to the shit-pile Los Angeles has become in just the
>>>>> last 10 short years was very disheartening.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's no surprise it would be especially noticeable to Kimmel,
>>>>> whose show's home is in an old Masonic temple right across
>>>>> Hollywood Blvd from the Chinese Theater and the
>>>>> Hollywood-and-Highland Complex, where fentanyl addicts stagger
>>>>> around like WALKING DEAD extras, crime is out of control,
>>>>> vagrants tents and trash mountains abound, and dead bodies lying
>>>>> on the sidewalk are a routine occurrence.
>>>>>
>>>>> Coming back to that from Japan would be quite a contrast indeed.
>>>>>    
>>>> Japan's taxes vs US are generally considered to be pretty high.
>>>
>>> At least the citizens of Japan get value in return for their taxes.
>>>
>>> I live in the highest tax state in the union and when we call the
>>> cops for things like a vagrant openly masturbating in a park while
>>> watching kids, the response is "there's nothing we can do".
>>>
>>> Betcha that doesn't happen in Japan.
>>>
>>> When businesses are run into the ground by repeated break-ins and the
>>> fact that customers can't even get into their front doors anymore
>>> because there's a tent and trash mountain and meth addict face-down
>>> in a puddle of his own vomit blocking them, if they get any response
>>> from the city council besides a bored shrug, they're told "there's
>>> nothing we can do".
>>>
>>> Betcha that doesn't happen in Japan.
>>>
>>> Over and over, crime after crime... "There's nothing we can do. Now
>>> shut up and give us more tax money."
>>>
>>>> So you'd be OK with higher taxes to fix our problems at home,
>>>> right?
>>>
>>> Except I already pay higher taxes and the problems only get worse
>>> here.
>>>
>>> Over the last three years the people of L.A. County were taxed more
>>> than $3 billion "to fight homelessness". At the end of that three
>>> years, with three billion of our tax dollars gone, what was the
>>> result?
>>>
>>> Homelessness has increased by 32%.
>>
>> You just *know* the "progressive" response to that will be: "Just think
>> how much worse it would have been if we hadn't spent that $3 billion on
>> the problem!"
> 
> Where I part ways with Kimmel on this is that he acts like L.A.'s
> situation is representative of America.


You're lying.  As usual.  You "part ways with Kimmel" every time he 
utters a word.  What the fuck are you event talking about?


  Yes, Los Angeles is a miserable
> and disgusting place, unfit for human occupation, but not every place in
> America is like L.A. Most places are not. Just the Democrat-run big blue
> cities.
> 
> The problem with leftist goobers like Kimmel is that they'll make these
> kinds of observations about somewhere like Japan, but then exhibit no
> curiosity whatsoever as to why Tokyo is like that but L.A is not. They
> simply make the observation and then move on. These people are so
> dimwitted and incurious that they can notice a stark and shocking
> difference like this-- that Japan's cities are clean and attractive and
> safe, while ours are garbage dumps-- without ever stopping for even a
> moment to reflect on the 'how' and the 'why' of it.
> 
> Or even worse, they'll notice something like this and bring it up for
> discussion and then stridently condemn anyone who tries to talk about
> the 'how' and the 'why' as some kind -ist or -phobe.
> 
> In this case, the how and why are obvious to anyone who isn't a raging
> leftist like Kimmel and his friends.
> 
> Japan is a homogenous country. Nearly everyone is Japanese by ancestry
> and ethnicity. Everyone shares one language, one culture, and that
> culture is one that values discipline, hard work, respect for authority,
> and education. And the Japanese also have a very high average IQ as a
> people. The highest in the world, in fact.
> 
> So you can see why Kimmel doesn't want to talk about the why. Japan has
> made itself so clean and safe and orderly precisely by rejecting
> Kimmel's own world view.
> 
> Kimmel, as an avowed leftist, believes that 'diversity is our strength',
> that compassion requires us to throw open our borders and invite the
> entire 3rd-world in, that we ought to have no national language, no real
> nationwide shared culture, and that we should treat all cultures the
> same.
> 
> But Japan is the way it is because it has, up till now, done the
> opposite of all that. And now Kimmel excoriates America for not being
> like Japan while insisting that America not do any of the things Japan
> has done to make itself that way. And we should continue to do all of
> the things that make our cities dirty and revolting, even as he
> complains that our cities are dirty and revolting.
> 
> There are things that we can do to make our cities cleaner and safer. We
> probably won't ever get to Japan-level-- that toothpaste was squeezed
> out of the tube a long time ago-- but we don't have to live like this.
> Our cities don't need to be scenes from a post-apocalyptic Mad Max
> movie. They can be cleaned up, it's just Kimmel and his fellow
> travelers, while complaining that the cites are disgusting, doesn't want
> to do any of the necessary things to clean them up.
> 
> Those things would include shutting down illegal immigration, seriously
> punish those who hire illegals, enforcing the laws in our cities
> strictly and severely, outlawing vagrancy, rounding up the mentally ill
> whose malady prevents them from caring for their own basic needs and
> institutionalizing them, harshly punishing both drug dealers and
> consumers, putting repeat offenders in prison with lengthy sentences,
> strictly enforcing laws against vandalism, littering, loitering,
> camping, open fires, public indecency, public urination, public
> intoxication, theft, robbery, assault, battery-- pretty much the entire
> section of the penal code that is currently being routinely ignored.
> 
> In short, imposing order with force and severity. That's how you do it.
> There is no other way to do it. At least no other way for *us* to do it.
> The Japan option is not on the table anymore, so we're left with having
> to do it the ugly way.
> 
> We can clean things up the ugly way or we can continue to have an ugly
> country. Those are the only two options. Jimmy Kimmel has chosen the
> latter. He and his leftist friends choose to have an ugly country while
> complaining that the country is ugly.