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On 4/5/2024 6:51 PM, Rhino wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 13:07:05 -0400
> moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/5/2024 11:32 AM, Rhino wrote:
>>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 23:04:49 -0400
>>> moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>    
>>>> On 4/4/2024 9:21 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 04 Apr 2024 13:02:19 -0700
>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>       
>>>>>> In article <uumno6$p8sf$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>     Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>> Late-night host Jimmy Kimmel said he's looking at America in a
>>>>>>> new light after a recent visit to Japan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The 56-year-old said his trip abroad made him realize that the
>>>>>>> U.S. is unsanitary compared to the land of the rising sun.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "After traveling to Japan, I realize that this place, this USA
>>>>>>> we're always chanting about, is a filthy and disgusting
>>>>>>> country," he said during his monologue on Monday night's
>>>>>>> episode of "Jimmy Kimmel Live."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with him. My trip to Tokyo was an eye-opener. I've never
>>>>>> seen a city so clean and beautiful with pleasant, polite, happy
>>>>>> people everywhere you go. Its only drawback was that-- of all the
>>>>>> places I've been around the world-- it's one of the harder cities
>>>>>> to get around and function in if you don't speak the language. I
>>>>>> thought at the time that if I spoke and read Japanese, I'd
>>>>>> consider living in Tokyo for good if I could.
>>>>>>      
>>>>> One of my friends and his wife taught English in Japan for a
>>>>> couple of years back in the early 80s. He assured me that it's
>>>>> really easy and logical to get around in Japan via public
>>>>> transit, especially rail. I don't think he had any Japanese when
>>>>> he got there, although they certainly learned some during their
>>>>> two years there. Even years later, he could recite all the stops
>>>>> between Tokyo and the city where they worked, which was two or
>>>>> three hours away from Tokyo.
>>>>>> Coming back to the shit-pile Los Angeles has become in just the
>>>>>> last 10 short years was very disheartening.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's no surprise it would be especially noticeable to Kimmel,
>>>>>> whose show's home is in an old Masonic temple right across
>>>>>> Hollywood Blvd from the Chinese Theater and the
>>>>>> Hollywood-and-Highland Complex, where fentanyl addicts stagger
>>>>>> around like WALKING DEAD extras, crime is out of control,
>>>>>> vagrants tents and trash mountains abound, and dead bodies lying
>>>>>> on the sidewalk are a routine occurrence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Coming back to that from Japan would be quite a contrast indeed.
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>> Kimmel went on to describe how he used to believe that while the
>>>>>>> U.S. had "areas for improvement," it was mostly ahead in terms
>>>>>>> of cleanliness compared to most of the rest of the world.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I go to Europe, and there are dirt holes where plumbing is
>>>>>>> supposed to be. I hold my breath, and I go, 'I'm glad I'm not
>>>>>>> one of these people,' and then I go back home," he continued.
>>>>>>> Kimmel went on to praise the cleanliness of the bathrooms in
>>>>>>> Japan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The bathrooms in Tokyo and Kyoto are cleaner than our operating
>>>>>>> rooms here. Everywhere you go the bathrooms are clean, they
>>>>>>> don't smell bad, they have those toilets that wash you from the
>>>>>>> inside out," he marveled. Kimmel also joked that even truck stop
>>>>>>> restrooms were "cleaner than Jennifer Garner's teeth -- the
>>>>>>> cleanest. Beautiful."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "And it's not just the bathrooms," the host added. "People carry
>>>>>>> their own trash. There are no garbage cans," Kimmel said,
>>>>>>> mentioning the 1995 terrorist incident when a man put poisonous
>>>>>>> sarin gas in trash cans.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes! I noticed that. I had to carry around an empty Coke can for
>>>>>> several hours because there was nowhere on the street to put it.
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>> This resulted in the country removing public trash receptacles
>>>>>>> and Japanese citizens adapting to dispose of their own garbage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "They're like OK, no more trash cans, everybody clean up after
>>>>>>> yourselves. And guess what -- they clean up after themselves!
>>>>>>> They bring their garbage to their houses," he added.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "It's like the whole country is Disneyland, and we're living at
>>>>>>> Six Flags," Kimmel said. "I've been home 36 hours, I have never
>>>>>>> felt dirtier. We are like hogs compared to the Japanese. I can't
>>>>>>> imagine what they must think of us. 'Oh, the garbage people.
>>>>>>> Yes, the Americans. Garbage.'"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [NYC was much cleaner before several Demcorats were running it,
>>>>>>> Jimmy-Boy.]
>>>>>
>>>>> There may be an easy solution to littering. Many years ago, when I
>>>>> was just a pup, I remember an episode of Wonderful World of Disney
>>>>> where they talked about the state of littering in some historic
>>>>> places and/or national parks, perhaps Mt. Rushmore or Yellowstone.
>>>>> They had a little jingle going as they showed these scenes and I
>>>>> still remember a snippet of it to this day: "Litterbug, litterbug,
>>>>> don't you care? Making a mess everywhere!" I don't think I've
>>>>> littered since I saw that, although there were probably a couple
>>>>> of other moments along the way that reinforced that. I just hold
>>>>> on to any litter I generate - or put it in my pocket - until I
>>>>> get to a garbage can. I barely even think about it: it's just
>>>>> programmed into my brain.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suppose you could characterize that as brain-washing and I
>>>>> suppose it's true but it worked and I can't find anything evil in
>>>>> it, unlike the sort of brain-washing/indoctrination so many
>>>>> schools do today.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why don't we do more of this? The world wouldn't suddenly be clean
>>>>> and tidy overnight but it would probably clean up gradually if we
>>>>> were all persuaded to litter less.
>>>>
>>>> People litter because other people litter ...preventable only by
>>>> police.
>>>>   
>>> Nonsense. I just told you how I was persuaded not to litter. No
>>> police involvement at all.
>>
>> Now you just need a reason to believe you're not the Western
>> exception.
>>
> And you need a reason to believe the police will actually enforce
> littering bylaws when they don't even respond to much more serious
> crimes. Just a few weeks ago, Toronto police officers were telling
> people to leave their doors unlocked and to leave their car keys near
> the door so that car thieves could more easily steal their cars without
> having to threaten family members for them! Does that sound like a
> police force that will charge people for LITTERING? I don't know what
> planet you "progressives" are living on but I wish you'd stay on THEIR
> Usenet and stay the hell off ours!

When you come up for air, notice that -- barring insurrection -- a 
police force will do as it's instructed.  If a community wants it badly 
enough, littering (in a defined area) can be brought to a sudden halt. 
What's a bit idealistic is the idea of neatness becoming a contagious 
way of life ...flying in the face of entropy and human behavior.