Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2024 17:11:42 -0400
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On 4/8/2024 4:31 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article
> <17c458178a7167eb$33825$3384359$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com>,
>   moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/7/2024 7:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Apr 7, 2024 at 2:47:21 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> On 4/7/24 1:32 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/6/2024 11:21 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>> <17c3e0882b0394ca$5560$3037545$10d55a65@news.newsdemon.com>,
>>>>>>>> moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/6/2024 2:41 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>>>> <17c3b829d977a4bb$361$1351842$40d50a60@news.newsdemon.com>,
>>>>>>>>>> moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/5/2024 7:11 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2024 at 3:57:07 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/5/2024 4:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What *opinion* -- of anything anywhere -- can't be *that*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be a violation of 'free speech'...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one's muzzling or prohibiting you from making contradictory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statements regarding the SCOTUS ruling. However, your right to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free speech doesn't immunize you from being wrong or bar others
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from pointing out your wrongness.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...where "wrongness" means "of differing opinion".
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can have an opinion that SCOTUS decided wrongly and wish it
>>>>>>>>>>>> had made a different ruling but you can't have an opinion that
>>>>>>>>>>>> the law is other than it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The 'law' is what SCOTUS has opinions about. I can have *my*
>>>>>>>>>>> opinion about either or both. Therein, the only "wrong" would be
>>>>>>>>>>> a misquoting.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, the law is what it is and it's not what you claim. You can
>>>>>>>>>> have your own opinions but you can't have your own facts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No? The law *isn't* text that SCOTUS has opinions about? ...as I
>>>>>>>>> may?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, SCOTUS opinions become the law.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Including the dissenting ones?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The dissent isn't the opinion of the Court.
>>>>
>>>> Elsewhere, I posted an authoritative quote to the effect that an opinion
>>>> may contain several -- sometimes differing -- opinions.
>>>
>>> But *the* opinion is the majority opinion.
>>
>> Where "*the*" means "the majority", but not where it means "the only".
> 
> Sure, there's also the "moviePig opinion" lurking about out there but no
> one's going to cite that in a brief and no lower court judge will give
> it any credence when deciding matters of law.

So, it'll get the same treatment SCOTUS gives SCOTUS opinions...