Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 11:32:52 -0400
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Subject: Re: InstaCart Delivery Guy Shoots and Kills One of Angie Harmon's Dogs
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On 4/9/2024 9:17 AM, FPP wrote:
> On 4/5/24 4:15 PM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 4/5/2024 9:37 AM, FPP wrote:
>>> On 4/4/24 10:53 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>> On 4/4/2024 8:06 PM, FPP wrote:
>>>>> On 4/4/24 11:31 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/4/2024 6:51 AM, FPP wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/3/24 2:22 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 4/3/2024 5:59 AM, FPP wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 4/3/24 4:38 AM, shawn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 23:45:56 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13261563/Angie-Harmon-reveals-Instacart-driver-shot-KILLED-dogs.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The actress Angie Harmon shared the devastating news that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> one of her family's
>>>>>>>>>>> dogs was shot and killed by an InstaCart delivery person over 
>>>>>>>>>>> the Easter
>>>>>>>>>>> weekend. The 51-year-old former LAW & ORDER star revealed on 
>>>>>>>>>>> Instagram on
>>>>>>>>>>> Monday that her dog Oliver had been killed by the delivery 
>>>>>>>>>>> person after he
>>>>>>>>>>> dropped off groceries to their home in Charlotte, North 
>>>>>>>>>>> Carolina.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "This Easter weekend a man delivering groceries for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> InstaCart shot & killed
>>>>>>>>>>> our precious Oliver," she wrote, alongside several sweet 
>>>>>>>>>>> photos of the
>>>>>>>>>>> deceased pet. "He got out of his car, delivered the food & 
>>>>>>>>>>> THEN shot our
>>>>>>>>>>> dog.
>>>>>>>>>>> Our Ring camera was charging in the house, which he saw & 
>>>>>>>>>>> then knew he
>>>>>>>>>>> wasn’t
>>>>>>>>>>> being recorded. The police let him go because he claimed 
>>>>>>>>>>> self-defense. He
>>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>> not have a scratch or bite on him nor were his pants torn. He 
>>>>>>>>>>> was shopping
>>>>>>>>>>> under a woman's identity named Merle. He shot our dog with my 
>>>>>>>>>>> daughters and
>>>>>>>>>>> myself at home and just kept saying, "Yeah, I shot your dog. 
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I did."
>>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>>> are completely traumatized and beyond devastated at the loss 
>>>>>>>>>>> of our beloved
>>>>>>>>>>> boy and family member."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> InstaCart responded to Harmon's claims with a statement to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> DailyMail.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "We were deeply saddened and disturbed to hear about this 
>>>>>>>>>>>> incident. We have no
>>>>>>>>>>> tolerance for violence of any kind and the shopper account 
>>>>>>>>>>> was immediately
>>>>>>>>>>> suspended from our platform," it said. "We have been in 
>>>>>>>>>>> direct contact with
>>>>>>>>>>> the customer and are cooperating with law enforcement on their
>>>>>>>>>>> investigation."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In an update from the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Department to TMZ, law
>>>>>>>>>>> enforcement officials confirmed that the InstaCart driver 
>>>>>>>>>>> claimed he shot
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> dog in self-defense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "The investigation revealed that a delivery driver arrived 
>>>>>>>>>>>> at the residence to
>>>>>>>>>>> deliver consumable goods. The driver told officers that a dog 
>>>>>>>>>>> attacked him
>>>>>>>>>>> while he was at the residence and that he defended himself by 
>>>>>>>>>>> firing a
>>>>>>>>>>> single
>>>>>>>>>>> gunshot, striking and mortally wounding the dog. Another dog 
>>>>>>>>>>> was present at
>>>>>>>>>>> the residence but did not attack."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> They added that the department's Animal Control division was 
>>>>>>>>>>>> also involved in
>>>>>>>>>>> the response to the shooting but the department confirmed 
>>>>>>>>>>> that no charges
>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>> been filed against the driver at this time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The police department added that it was not seeking out any 
>>>>>>>>>>>> other individuals
>>>>>>>>>>> in response to the shooting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve looked at the postings online and have some questions.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ring doorbells are rechargeable? You can just stick them up 
>>>>>>>>>>> to the front of
>>>>>>>>>>> the house and move them in and out? How come they don’t get 
>>>>>>>>>>> stolen all the
>>>>>>>>>>> time?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, that has to be the case because most of them (all that I 
>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>> around here) are just stuck to the door so there's no power
>>>>>>>>>> connection. I haven't checked but assumed that the ring is 
>>>>>>>>>> locked to
>>>>>>>>>> the case until you use the app to unlock the ring device.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The groceries delivered Were a very small package left at the 
>>>>>>>>>>> front door. I
>>>>>>>>>>> thought from the story presented he/she/it must’ve come 
>>>>>>>>>>> inside to see that
>>>>>>>>>>> her ring doorbell was recharging. So I’m not sure how 
>>>>>>>>>>> he/she/it knew.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I assume the actual device was missing (since it was inside
>>>>>>>>>> recharging) so the easier way to put it is that the driver saw 
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> there was no camera. He may not even have known they had a 
>>>>>>>>>> Ring device
>>>>>>>>>> unless he delivered items there before.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ring is currently heavily advertising that every big moment 
>>>>>>>>>>> in your life
>>>>>>>>>>> happens on your front porch and is captured by your ring 
>>>>>>>>>>> doorbell video
>>>>>>>>>>> which is just galactically stupid but will they continue this 
>>>>>>>>>>> campaign?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what Instacart and the local police policy is on 
>>>>>>>>>>> Instacart,
>>>>>>>>>>> drivers carrying weapons, potentially concealed?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My guess is just the what ever the local laws are.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They won’t do anything to he/she/it. PETA goes to peoples 
>>>>>>>>>>> homes and steals
>>>>>>>>>>> their animals and kills them because they don’t think animals 
>>>>>>>>>>> should be
>>>>>>>>>>> pets and it’s just a small fine.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, without a video of what the guy did I don't expect 
>>>>>>>>>> anything to
>>>>>>>>>> happen to him.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You're kidding, right?  Without him having proof of self 
>>>>>>>>> defense, he's going to get his ass sued off.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As far as criminal charges go, that'll depend on what, if 
>>>>>>>>> anything, he's charged with - as well as his past record, if he 
>>>>>>>>> has one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't want to believe there are people who'd shoot a dog with 
>>>>>>>> zero provocation, and I'm guessing a jury might not want to either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow, pig.  So you've never been on a jury before, have you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, I fail the voir dire.  But in this instance it's the word of 
>>>>>> the victim and only witness against the owners' speculative 
>>>>>> "certainty".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The guy doing the shooting is the one who needs to show his reason 
>>>>> for shooting in the first place.
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't want to believe that people treat animals badly?  Do you 
>>>>> live under a rock?
>>>>
>>>> I couldn't convict the guy based simply on my angry suspicions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> What provocation justifies killing an animal?  Because unless there 
>>> was some kind of justification, he shot a dog in the dog's own home.
>>>
>>> You condone abusing animals that haven't done anything to warrant it?
>>
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