Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 23:08:18 -0400
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Subject: Re: InstaCart Delivery Guy Shoots and Kills One of Angie Harmon's Dogs
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On 4/9/2024 9:05 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> On 4/9/2024 8:32 AM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 4/9/2024 9:17 AM, FPP wrote:
>>> On 4/5/24 4:15 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>> On 4/5/2024 9:37 AM, FPP wrote:
>>>>> On 4/4/24 10:53 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/4/2024 8:06 PM, FPP wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/4/24 11:31 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 4/4/2024 6:51 AM, FPP wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 4/3/24 2:22 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/3/2024 5:59 AM, FPP wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/3/24 4:38 AM, shawn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 23:45:56 -0700, anim8rfsk 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13261563/Angie-Harmon-reveals-Instacart-driver-shot-KILLED-dogs.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The actress Angie Harmon shared the devastating news that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of her family's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dogs was shot and killed by an InstaCart delivery person 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over the Easter
>>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend. The 51-year-old former LAW & ORDER star revealed 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Instagram on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monday that her dog Oliver had been killed by the delivery 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> person after he
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropped off groceries to their home in Charlotte, North 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carolina.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "This Easter weekend a man delivering groceries for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> InstaCart shot & killed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> our precious Oliver," she wrote, alongside several sweet 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> photos of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> deceased pet. "He got out of his car, delivered the food & 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> THEN shot our
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dog.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our Ring camera was charging in the house, which he saw & 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then knew he
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn’t
>>>>>>>>>>>>> being recorded. The police let him go because he claimed 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> self-defense. He
>>>>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not have a scratch or bite on him nor were his pants torn. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was shopping
>>>>>>>>>>>>> under a woman's identity named Merle. He shot our dog with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my daughters and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself at home and just kept saying, "Yeah, I shot your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dog. Yeah, I did."
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are completely traumatized and beyond devastated at the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> loss of our beloved
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boy and family member."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> InstaCart responded to Harmon's claims with a statement to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DailyMail.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "We were deeply saddened and disturbed to hear about this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incident. We have no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tolerance for violence of any kind and the shopper account 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was immediately
>>>>>>>>>>>>> suspended from our platform," it said. "We have been in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> direct contact with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the customer and are cooperating with law enforcement on their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> investigation."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In an update from the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Department to TMZ, law
>>>>>>>>>>>>> enforcement officials confirmed that the InstaCart driver 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> claimed he shot
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dog in self-defense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The investigation revealed that a delivery driver arrived 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the residence to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> deliver consumable goods. The driver told officers that a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dog attacked him
>>>>>>>>>>>>> while he was at the residence and that he defended himself 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by firing a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> single
>>>>>>>>>>>>> gunshot, striking and mortally wounding the dog. Another 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dog was present at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the residence but did not attack."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They added that the department's Animal Control division 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was also involved in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the response to the shooting but the department confirmed 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that no charges
>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>>> been filed against the driver at this time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The police department added that it was not seeking out 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any other individuals
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in response to the shooting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve looked at the postings online and have some questions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ring doorbells are rechargeable? You can just stick them up 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the front of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the house and move them in and out? How come they don’t get 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stolen all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, that has to be the case because most of them (all that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I see
>>>>>>>>>>>> around here) are just stuck to the door so there's no power
>>>>>>>>>>>> connection. I haven't checked but assumed that the ring is 
>>>>>>>>>>>> locked to
>>>>>>>>>>>> the case until you use the app to unlock the ring device.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The groceries delivered Were a very small package left at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the front door. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought from the story presented he/she/it must’ve come 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> inside to see that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> her ring doorbell was recharging. So I’m not sure how 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> he/she/it knew.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I assume the actual device was missing (since it was inside
>>>>>>>>>>>> recharging) so the easier way to put it is that the driver 
>>>>>>>>>>>> saw that
>>>>>>>>>>>> there was no camera. He may not even have known they had a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ring device
>>>>>>>>>>>> unless he delivered items there before.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ring is currently heavily advertising that every big moment 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in your life
>>>>>>>>>>>>> happens on your front porch and is captured by your ring 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doorbell video
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is just galactically stupid but will they continue 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this campaign?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what Instacart and the local police policy is on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instacart,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers carrying weapons, potentially concealed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My guess is just the what ever the local laws are.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They won’t do anything to he/she/it. PETA goes to peoples 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> homes and steals
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their animals and kills them because they don’t think 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> animals should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pets and it’s just a small fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, without a video of what the guy did I don't expect 
>>>>>>>>>>>> anything to
>>>>>>>>>>>> happen to him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You're kidding, right?  Without him having proof of self 
>>>>>>>>>>> defense, he's going to get his ass sued off.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As far as criminal charges go, that'll depend on what, if 
>>>>>>>>>>> anything, he's charged with - as well as his past record, if 
>>>>>>>>>>> he has one.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't want to believe there are people who'd shoot a dog 
>>>>>>>>>> with zero provocation, and I'm guessing a jury might not want 
>>>>>>>>>> to either.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wow, pig.  So you've never been on a jury before, have you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, I fail the voir dire.  But in this instance it's the word of 
>>>>>>>> the victim and only witness against the owners' speculative 
>>>>>>>> "certainty".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The guy doing the shooting is the one who needs to show his 
>>>>>>> reason for shooting in the first place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You don't want to believe that people treat animals badly?  Do 
>>>>>>> you live under a rock?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I couldn't convict the guy based simply on my angry suspicions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What provocation justifies killing an animal?  Because unless there 
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