Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 04:41:07 -0500
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On 4/14/24 2:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <uvgj0h$3kt9v$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/13/24 12:57 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:
>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:11:32 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nope. It prohibited 'don't say straight' every bit as much as
>>>> 'don't say gay'.
>>>>
>>>> In other words, it was telling teachers to keep their personal sex
>>>> lives to themselves and out of the classroom.
>>>>
>>>> Hardly an unreasonable position for anyone who isn't a lunatic.
>>>
>>> More to the point, it's restricted to 'primary age' kids which around
>>> here means grades 1-3. Which in my opinion is totally reasonable. If
>>> it were grades 9-12 I likely would feel differently.
>>>
>> Sure. Until it isn't. You start there and they quickly worked their
>> way up.
>>
>> That's how it's done. Once you see the nose of a camel in the tent,
>> it's quickly followed by the rest of the camel.
> 
> You guys are the geniuses of incrementalism. You did it masterfully with
> destroying the criminal justice system here in California.
> 
> It started with Newsom unilaterally doing away with the death penalty
> despite the fact that the people of California not only passed it into
> law through their elected representatives, but then they reaffirmed
> their support for it overwhelmingly in two subsequent ballot measures.
> But Newsom overrode all 40 million of us and imposed his own political
> preference by fiat.


That's horrific.  How does this compare to the Roe v Wade situation?



> (There's that precious 'muh democracy' that y'all are always so worried
> about.)
> 
> And he and his fellow Dems in the Assembly said, "Don't worry, even
> without the death penalty the really bad guys will still be in prison
> for life without parole."
> 
> A few years go by, then the same characters start talking about how not
> giving people the chance for parole is too cruel, so they started
> passing laws giving LWOP convicts the ability to challenge their
> sentences and have them converted to life *with* possibility of parole.
> 
> Then came Prop 47 and Prop 57. One started the process of releasing all
> non-violent criminals from state prisons. The other reclassified a whole
> host of objectively violent crimes as 'non-violent' so they would
> qualify for release and downgraded dozens of felonies to misdemeanors so
> criminals wouldn't even be sent to prison in the first place. This was
> sold to the public by Kamala Harris as "The Safe Schools and
> Neighborhoods Initiative".
> 
> Now they're releasing any murderer, no matter how heinous his crime, if
> he was convicted before 1994. So life in prison is now effectively no
> more than 30 years and "Only the non-violent offenders will be released"
> has morphed into throwing open the doors and letting pre-meditated
> murderers run free.
> 
> Then the Dems staffed the Public Safety Committee in the Assembly with
> the most radical hug-a-thug pols in Sacramento to ensure no new crimes
> are ever added to the penal code. They wouldn't even make sex
> trafficking of minors a 3-strike eligible felony until they were shamed
> into it when their refusal to do so made international news. Selling
> kids for sex isn't bad enough to warrant prison time for these lunatics.
> 
> All this happened bit-by-bit over the course of 10 years as part of a
> well-coordinated plan by 'progressive' Democrats to empty our prisons
> and jails and neuter the criminal justice system in the state. They knew
> they could never do it in one fell swoop even though they had the votes
> for it because the boiling frog (the public) would scream holy hell and
> vote them all out. So they did it one little bit at a time,
> step-by-step, and now here we are, with crime out of control, businesses
> shutting down in the major cities and fleeing the state, and the public
> wondering how society seemed to have disintegrated overnight.
> 
> What has always puzzled me and continues to do so is why? Why do
> 'progressive' leftists seem to love the idea of living in a lawless
> hellscape instead of a civilized society?