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On 4/15/24 3:32 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article
> <17c68b3bbff3bbdb$39147$3340453$c0d58a68@news.newsdemon.com>,
>   moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/14/2024 3:10 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <20240414115816.00002f6c@example.com>,
>>>    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 23:20:47 -0700
>>>> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 16:22:48 -0400, Rhino
>>>>> <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If the homeless were allowed agency, there would inevitably be
>>>>>> pressure to hold them accountable for their actions. That would
>>>>>> undermine the "progressive" Saviours who are going to fix everything
>>>>>> with vast new and expensive - and almost certainly futile - programs
>>>>>> to help the poor darlings. It's far better to just declare them all
>>>>>> to be helpless captives of their addictions and mental health so
>>>>>> that "help" can be applied in whatever fashion the government and
>>>>>> their agents in the civil service deem necessary. Many many billions
>>>>>> of tax dollars can then be wasted on schemes that won't solve the
>>>>>> problem but WILL enrich the agencies that run the schemes.
>>>>>>    
>>>>> You're suggesting forcible confinement in mental health facilities
>>>>
>>>> Actually, no, I was not even *thinking* of doing that.
>>>
>>> You may not be, but I am. If you're violently mentally ill, walking
>>> around threatening people and attacking them, you need to be removed
>>> from society. If your illness is such that treatment is ineffective,
>>> then you stay there forever. But there's no reason the rest of us should
>>> have to run the risk of being attacked, stabbed, set on fire, whatever
>>> your delusions are telling you to do just going about our daily lives.
>>
>> Actually, there is *some* reason we run such risks: we give personal
>> freedom the benefit of doubt under necessarily imperfect diagnoses.
> 
> A mentally ill guy diagnosis himself perfectly 


Could you speak English please?  You sound worse than a Trump.



when he violently attacks
> someone. At that point we know something must be done about him that
> involves removing him from society. The only question is whether that
> removal is permanent or not.