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On 4/16/24 2:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <uvlpcv$u7hv$4@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/15/24 4:32 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <17c68b3bbff3bbdb$39147$3340453$c0d58a68@news.newsdemon.com>,
>>>    moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/14/2024 3:10 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <20240414115816.00002f6c@example.com>,
>>>>>     Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 23:20:47 -0700
>>>>>> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 16:22:48 -0400, Rhino
>>>>>>> <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If the homeless were allowed agency, there would inevitably be
>>>>>>>> pressure to hold them accountable for their actions. That would
>>>>>>>> undermine the "progressive" Saviours who are going to fix everything
>>>>>>>> with vast new and expensive - and almost certainly futile - programs
>>>>>>>> to help the poor darlings. It's far better to just declare them all
>>>>>>>> to be helpless captives of their addictions and mental health so
>>>>>>>> that "help" can be applied in whatever fashion the government and
>>>>>>>> their agents in the civil service deem necessary. Many many billions
>>>>>>>> of tax dollars can then be wasted on schemes that won't solve the
>>>>>>>> problem but WILL enrich the agencies that run the schemes.
>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> You're suggesting forcible confinement in mental health facilities
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, no, I was not even *thinking* of doing that.
>>>>>
>>>>> You may not be, but I am. If you're violently mentally ill, walking
>>>>> around threatening people and attacking them, you need to be removed
>>>>> from society. If your illness is such that treatment is ineffective,
>>>>> then you stay there forever. But there's no reason the rest of us should
>>>>> have to run the risk of being attacked, stabbed, set on fire, whatever
>>>>> your delusions are telling you to do just going about our daily lives.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, there is *some* reason we run such risks: we give personal
>>>> freedom the benefit of doubt under necessarily imperfect diagnoses.
>>>
>>> A mentally ill guy diagnoses himself perfectly when he violently attacks
>>> someone. At that point we know something must be done about him that
>>> involves removing him from society. The only question is whether that
>>> removal is permanent or not.
>>>
>> Kinda like attacking cops with flagpole spears? Like that kind of
>> violent attacks?
> 
> They were actually arrested and put them in prison,


Can you have someone translate this into English please?


  weren't they?
> 
> If only our Democrat 'leaders' in California would do the same to our
> violent nutbags. I guess arrest only comes when the violent attacker has
> different politics than a leftist. If you're down with the Agenda, you
> can do whatever you want in Democrat-controlled California.