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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 16:30:03 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Perfect clocks Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <05f42940-be0f-4dc7-afd6-8370f88b557bn@googlegroups.com> <1qsmp8o.1jwlg3v1xk01r5N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <1qso39s.m68wpff47vhtN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <6a1c3b297bdda349a4b060c84dd8807a@www.novabbs.com> <v0l5iq$vort$1@dont-email.me> <17ca6e610e072624$155218$255119$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <401105f9fddb89f13f72c90d06d51dab@www.novabbs.com> Content-Language: pl From: Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> In-Reply-To: <401105f9fddb89f13f72c90d06d51dab@www.novabbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 71 Path: ...!npeer.as286.net!npeer-ng0.as286.net!peer02.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer02.ams4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.eu1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 14:30:04 +0000 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <17cac6a1570a540d$155221$255119$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> X-Received-Bytes: 3226 Bytes: 3353 W dniu 29.04.2024 o 14:27, gharnagel pisze: > Maciej Wozniak wrote: >> >> W dniu 28.04.2024 o 11:40, Mikko pisze: >> > >> > On 2024-04-27 19:50:34 +0000, gharnagel said: >> > > > > Perhaps there is only one nature, but it has many parts. >> > > The discussion seems to be about the part of nature called >> > > "time" ... >> > > Time is not a part of nature. If you remove time and everthing >> > that is in a time or is a part of time or is a property of time >> > or requires time to exist then nothing is left. >> > > > but what is "time"? >> > > Many things are called "time". >> >> Does every of them have the property above, >> poor halfbrain? > > That should be "Do all of them," quarterbrain. And that's because...? >> Time is a tool for describing things. > > So Wozzie believes time is a tool, invented, not a concept. Of course it's a concept. Concepts are invented. His > problem is that he just proved that what Mikko said is correct. Which one? He said 2 things, generally excluding each other, as expected from a relativistic idiot. > Wozzie is dishonest because he takes only a part of the answer > and pretends that it's ALL of the answer. Harrie, on the other hand, is dishonest because he lies impudently. > >> If you take it away - everything stays as it is, you >> just can't say a word about it anymore. > > So Wozzie quarterbrain believes if we didn't have clocks all > processes of nature would stop? Nope. Oppositely - you and your fellow idiot Mikko believe that, because - with all of your mystical nonsensens - you're still defining time as "what clocks indicate". Or don't you? Weird!! > > https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=ymyy-t&ei=UTF-8&p=my+grandfather%27s+clock#id=2&vid=47e1d2d247b785182417aa9d93eaa0df&action=click > > True, clocks are tools, but time is a concept It is. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/concept How did you imagine an idea can't be a tool? And how did you imagine that nature is creating ideas?