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From: HenHanna <HenHanna@dev.null>
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Subject: Re: [de]"Schnitzel"
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2024 07:04:56 +0000
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On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 3:11:49 (UTC), Jeff Barnett wrote:

> On 7/7/2024 9:02 PM, HenHanna wrote:
>> On 1/29/2024 12:17 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
>>>    I tried to find an English expression for the German word
>>>    "paniertes Schnitzel".
>>>
>>>    The English word "schnitzel" refers to something that is
>>>    breaded. (The English word "schnitzel" refers to what is called
>>>    "/Wiener/ Schnitzel" in German.) A German "Schnitzel" does not
>>>    necessarily have to be breaded, but in this case I am thinking
>>>    of a "paniertes Schnitzel", i.e., a breaded "Schnitzel".
>>>
>>>    From the etymology of "Schnitzel", it is something like a
>>>    "cutlet", but the German words "Kotelett" and "Schnitzel"
>>>    have taken on a more specific meanings each.
>>>
>>>    The German "Schnitzel" usually is taken from the /leg of pork/.
>>>    (I am thinking of pork, "Schweineschnitzel". A German "Schnitzel"
>>>    could also be some other kind of meat, like veal.)
>>>
>>>    The word "cutlet" alone would not convey this origin from the
>>>    leg. Therefore, my current best approximation to
>>>
>>>                    "paniertes Schweineschnitzel"
>>>
>>>    in English is
>>>
>>>                      "breaded pork leg cutlet".
>>>
>>>    (I'm not particularly fond of "Schnitzel", rather I prefer
>>>    "Koteletts" which are made of meat from the ribs of the pig,
>>>    with some bone and fat, and usually not breaded.)
>>>
>>
>>
>>               in a local grocery store (USA) i think i've seen
>>               boxes of  "Panko"   in the shelves.
>
> I think "panko" is taken to mean a Japanese-style breading. The crumbs
> are larger than those in ordinary bread crumb mixtures. [USA based
> observations.]
>
>> In German, "Brot" and "Panier" are completely different words with
>> distinct meanings:
>>
>> Brot:          This is the most common word for bread in German,
>> referring to any variety of bread in general. It can be sliced bread,
>> rolls, baguettes, etc. (Think "breadbasket").
>>
>> Panier:       This word refers to bread crumbs used for coating food
>> before frying or baking. It comes from the French word "paner," which
>> also means "to bread." (Think "breading for schnitzel").
> --
> Jeff Barnett


       There must've been a time when lots of ppl thought
           it was silly to sell (or buy)    bread crumbs    (apart from
Bread)


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