Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:29:21 -0500
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On 6/21/24 10:13 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 6/20/2024 10:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <v52ngo$2v630$8@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/20/24 9:35 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> In article <v52l9a$2qv7o$10@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/19/24 3:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> In article <v4v8ug$23o16$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>     moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/19/2024 12:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <v4uvta$21spc$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>      moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6/18/2024 9:41 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <v4t2ai$1imbc$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>       "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ST. LOUIS (AP) - A judge has expunged the misdemeanor 
>>>>>>>>>>>> convictions
>>>>>>>>>>>> of a St. Louis couple who waved guns at racial injustice 
>>>>>>>>>>>> protesters
>>>>>>>>>>>> outside their mansion in 2020. Now they want their guns back.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I had no idea that four years later, this still hadn't happened.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It was a gated community, which are all over St. Louis. They 
>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>> trespassing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Apparently 'trespassing' is a meaningless term when you're 
>>>>>>>>>> doing it
>>>>>>>>>> for 'social justice'.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Don't you even *pretend* there's a built-in tug-of-war between
>>>>>>>>> "trespassing" and "peaceable assembly"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe in a public place like a university quad, but not in a 
>>>>>>>> private
>>>>>>>> residential neighborhood.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Under the presumption that each point of view must give some ground
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why would you presume that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd say that the protesters' rights depend on history, geometry, 
>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd say (and I'd be right) that no protester has rights to come 
>>>>>> onto my
>>>>>> private property at all. I'm the only one who gets to decide who's
>>>>>> allowed and who isn't. It's pretty much in the definition.
>>>>>>
>>>>> They were in the street, not on McClosky's property.
>>>>
>>>> The street was private property, too, smooth brain.
>>>>
>>>> And there's nothing wrong with indicating to a screaming mob that's
>>>> already trespassed on private property what will happen to them if they
>>>> trespass any further.
>>
>>> There certainly was something wrong, and they were charged based on the
>>> law as written.
>>
>> But we don't care about the law as written, remember? It's only the
>> spirit we should be concerned with. And the spirit of private property
>> laws certainly does allow for warning off mobs of people in the middle
>> of nationwide violent riots from trespassing on your land and doing you
>> harm.
> 
> Even if that were (absurdly) the "spirit" of private property, there are 
> other laws, including common-sense ones, whose "spirit" figures in, too.


Oath Keeper Twat is losing what little mind he had to begin with. I told 
him there was the letter of the law and the spirit of the law, and he 
roundly told me I was full of shit.  I don't know who the fuck this 
anonyshit is, but he has a tenuous grasp of reality at best.