Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2024 05:01:32 -0500
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On 6/20/24 9:18 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <v52knn$2qv7o$5@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/20/24 5:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Jun 20, 2024 at 12:32:11 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/20/2024 12:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>    In article <v51ik8$2kkd7$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>      moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>    
>>>>>>    On 6/19/2024 11:25 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>    In article <s6077jpsl679hmse4jdbsf9eg38a9pf6qt@4ax.com>,
>>>>>>>       shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>> Yes, you are definitely technically correct. (The best kind.) That
>>>>>>>> said you can see why people consider the bump stock to be the
>>>>>>>> equivalent of turning a weapon into an equal to a machine gun. It
>>>>>>>> isn't a machine gun but it ends throwing lead down field much like
>>>>>>>> one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've seen people who can pull a trigger all on their own pretty damn
>>>>>>> fast-- certainly at a speed that most hoplophobes would consider
>>>>>>> "machine gun adjacent".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Should we make it illegal for a human to pull a trigger faster than a
>>>>>>> certain rate? Or force anyone who can do it accurately faster than a
>>>>>>> certain rate to register their finger with the BATF as a "machine
>>>>>>> gun"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think eventually the law will be updated to include bump stocks
>>>>>>>> but who knows how long that will take. As no one who was involved in
>>>>>>>> writing the original  act likely foresaw the possibility of a bump
>>>>>>>> stock.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you look at the 15-sec. video I posted? I submit that what you're
>>>>>> seeing for *both* guns is a single function of the trigger *finger* --
>>>>>    
>>>>> Even if true, the statute is silent on what the finger is doing, so
>>>>> it's irrelevant.
> 
>>>> A human finger is implied by "a single function of the trigger".
>>>
>>> No, it's the functioning of the trigger that's at issue, not what causes it
>>> to function. (Other things can cause a trigger pull besides a finger.)
> 
>> So describe the intent of the law.  Go ahead... what was the law
>> designed to do? To regulate and prevent.
>>
>> Have at it.
> 
> I don't care what a bunch of politicians (all with their own agendas)
> intended.


How white supremacist of you.  This reinforces my opinion that you were 
present at the Capitol on Jan. 6th and should be in prison for it.


  When I look to what's required of me legally, I only ask what
> does the law prohibit me from doing.
> 
> When I drive, I don't spend time wondering about all the intents of the
> various lawmakers that set the speed limit at 70MPH. I only care that I
> can drive up to 70MPH without having to worry about a ticket.
> 
> If we decided court cases based on intent, then a talented shooter would
> indeed have to worry about registering her index finger with the
> government as a "machine gun" if she could fire fast enough to mimic a
> machine gun. Something that even you dismissed as silly elsewhere in
> thread.