Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 04:25:36 -0500
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On 6/25/24 2:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <v5ehpo$1inqs$1@dont-email.me>,
>   "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> 
>> Just heard on the news that the United States government has entered
>> into a plea deal with Julian Assange. Assange is allowed to plead guilty
>> to one count of violating the Espionage Act, that vile law written on
>> behalf of the Wilson administration by Congress to silence critics of
>> WW1 and America's involvement in that horrid European war, that has been
>> used by subsequent administrations in all sorts of creative ways to
>> silence critics of America's war policies and just generally to
>> intimidate people into silence.
> 
> I still don't understand how Assange was subject to the Espionage Act at
> all. He was foreign national and was not within U.S. borders when he did
> all the stuff the government claimed of him.
> 
> Citizens of other nations do not owe allegiance to the United States
> and, indeed, all other countries, including our closest allies, spy on
> us as we do to them.
> 
> The U.S. Congress has no legal authority or justification to bind all
> six billion people on earth to obey U.S. law.


So if you steal something American and you're a foreign national you 
shouldn't expect to be prosecuted for it?  Are you sure that's how that 
works?  Is there a real lawyer you can ask for help?


>> Yes, by publishing everything Manning leaked, Assange had put lives in
>> danger, but no one believes Obama cared about that. It was strictly
>> about embarassment.
> 
> And when the NY Times published the Pentagon Papers, they put lives in
> danger, too, but it was constitutionally protected speech. Like the
> Times, Assange didn't steal the TS info. Manning did. And like the
> Times, he should have been constitutionally protected when he published
> it.
> 
> The argument was that the Pentagon Papers decision didn't apply because
> he's a foreign national and not entitled to constitutional protections
> when not on U.S. soil. But that same argument applies to the Espionage
> Act, too. The government is basically saying "U.S. law only applies to
> you (foreign nationals) when it suits us".