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Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 19:40:59 +0200
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Subject: Re: Einstein's second mass-energy formula m'/m = e/c^2
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From: Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
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W dniu 29.06.2024 o 18:40, Ross Finlayson pisze:
> On 06/29/2024 09:11 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>> W dniu 29.06.2024 o 17:17, Ross Finlayson pisze:
>>> On 06/29/2024 08:04 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>> W dniu 29.06.2024 o 16:46, Ross Finlayson pisze:
>>>>> On 06/28/2024 09:11 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>>>>> On 06/28/2024 09:04 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>>>>>> In "Out of My Later Years", Einstein's introduces another
>>>>>>> mass-energy equivalence formula after kinetic terms.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So if it's sort of Einstein's second-most famous formula,
>>>>>>> why hasn't anybody heard of it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> m'/m = e/c^2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It introduces that the terms in the rotational, make
>>>>>>> for that mass-energy equivalence only sits in the
>>>>>>> rotational setting, among all the other usual terms.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's introduced in a brief note near the end of
>>>>>>> the material on science in Einstein's "Out of My
>>>>>>> Later Years".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It really makes for a sort of way to make it so
>>>>>>> that the space-contraction results real while
>>>>>>> also that the linear is rather Galilean, while
>>>>>>> still fulfilling all the usual derivations, if
>>>>>>> not necessarily the rhetoric or intuitions,
>>>>>>> yet very intuitionistically while all formally.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's pretty great I wonder why it's not well-known.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_factor
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> These ideas in "Lorentz factor" in accommodating what are
>>>>> the "fictitious forces", which are real, and making for
>>>>> why there is boost addition with regards to addition
>>>>> formulae in what are continuous milieux, often harkens
>>>>> to the "Larmor forces" and "Larmor formula", "Lorentz-Larmor".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then, "Lorentz factor" also reflects that in the "Lorentz
>>>>> transformations", that it results about differential analysis
>>>>> being about constants vis-a-vis implicits, of course about
>>>>> metrics and norms of fields and gauges, helping explain why
>>>>> Einstein's theory by itself, and Feynman's theories themselves,
>>>>> have the _forms_ of the coordinate-free according to tensors,
>>>>> or the quantum amplitudes according to discretization, yet
>>>>> as well these have continuous _forms_, that "Lorentz factor"
>>>>> has all the components of "Lorentz transform" broken out
>>>>> as variously projective, for various purposes, here then
>>>>> mostly for "space-contraction" and "FitzGerald", then that
>>>>> FitzGerald, Larmor, Heaviside, and Faraday, are close to Maxwell.
>>>>>
>>>>> Einstein: in his "Out of My Later Years", which is great,
>>>>> has that he _does_ make for that SR is local, then that
>>>>> GR being fundamental thusly, then that m'/m = e/c^2,
>>>>> is a quite _profound_ connection of the objects of
>>>>> Einstein's theory, both equipping the rotational setting
>>>>> for mass-energy equivalency, and, detaching it from the
>>>>> Galilean.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, Einstein's second mass-energy equivalency relation,
>>>>> and the relation to Einstein's bridges about the centrally
>>>>> symmetrical, with how he left his board, are key concepts
>>>>> connecting the classical and the superclassical,
>>>>> and showing how mathematically it's a thing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And in the meantime in the real world - forbidden
>>>> by the idiot "improper" clocks of GPS and TAI keep
>>>> measuring t'=t, just like all the serious clocks
>>>> always did.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, perhaps the idea is that, as their settings are different,
>>
>> The idea is, that the purpose of clocks is
>> keeping synchronization (i.e. indicating t'=t).
>> The purpose of clocks is not providing beautiful
>> symmetry to some religious maniacs.
>> Taking it short - clock are not toy gadgets for
>> some  insane worshippers of some insane gurus.
> 
> Especially other people's clocks, ....

Right, especially the clocks of "observers".
But you're not stupid enough to apply your
idiocies even on your own clocks.

> 
>