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Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 19:40:59 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Einstein's second mass-energy formula m'/m = e/c^2 Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <eN6cnRy1afc0GuL7nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> <KDKdnarg5JDvFOL7nZ2dnZfqnPiWy52d@giganews.com> <IJSdnZK-R6fFgx37nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <17dd81ee27dea0f5$1$496440$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <KtWdnde24uwWuB37nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> <17dd858f307ed391$2$496440$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <bXSdnXb1kM52pR37nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> Content-Language: pl From: Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> In-Reply-To: <bXSdnXb1kM52pR37nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 99 Path: ...!npeer.as286.net!npeer-ng0.as286.net!peer01.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer01.ams4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.eu1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 17:40:59 +0000 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <17dd8a72f857e47d$3$496440$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> X-Received-Bytes: 5292 Bytes: 5419 W dniu 29.06.2024 o 18:40, Ross Finlayson pisze: > On 06/29/2024 09:11 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote: >> W dniu 29.06.2024 o 17:17, Ross Finlayson pisze: >>> On 06/29/2024 08:04 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote: >>>> W dniu 29.06.2024 o 16:46, Ross Finlayson pisze: >>>>> On 06/28/2024 09:11 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >>>>>> On 06/28/2024 09:04 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >>>>>>> In "Out of My Later Years", Einstein's introduces another >>>>>>> mass-energy equivalence formula after kinetic terms. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So if it's sort of Einstein's second-most famous formula, >>>>>>> why hasn't anybody heard of it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> m'/m = e/c^2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It introduces that the terms in the rotational, make >>>>>>> for that mass-energy equivalence only sits in the >>>>>>> rotational setting, among all the other usual terms. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's introduced in a brief note near the end of >>>>>>> the material on science in Einstein's "Out of My >>>>>>> Later Years". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It really makes for a sort of way to make it so >>>>>>> that the space-contraction results real while >>>>>>> also that the linear is rather Galilean, while >>>>>>> still fulfilling all the usual derivations, if >>>>>>> not necessarily the rhetoric or intuitions, >>>>>>> yet very intuitionistically while all formally. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's pretty great I wonder why it's not well-known. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_factor >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> These ideas in "Lorentz factor" in accommodating what are >>>>> the "fictitious forces", which are real, and making for >>>>> why there is boost addition with regards to addition >>>>> formulae in what are continuous milieux, often harkens >>>>> to the "Larmor forces" and "Larmor formula", "Lorentz-Larmor". >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Then, "Lorentz factor" also reflects that in the "Lorentz >>>>> transformations", that it results about differential analysis >>>>> being about constants vis-a-vis implicits, of course about >>>>> metrics and norms of fields and gauges, helping explain why >>>>> Einstein's theory by itself, and Feynman's theories themselves, >>>>> have the _forms_ of the coordinate-free according to tensors, >>>>> or the quantum amplitudes according to discretization, yet >>>>> as well these have continuous _forms_, that "Lorentz factor" >>>>> has all the components of "Lorentz transform" broken out >>>>> as variously projective, for various purposes, here then >>>>> mostly for "space-contraction" and "FitzGerald", then that >>>>> FitzGerald, Larmor, Heaviside, and Faraday, are close to Maxwell. >>>>> >>>>> Einstein: in his "Out of My Later Years", which is great, >>>>> has that he _does_ make for that SR is local, then that >>>>> GR being fundamental thusly, then that m'/m = e/c^2, >>>>> is a quite _profound_ connection of the objects of >>>>> Einstein's theory, both equipping the rotational setting >>>>> for mass-energy equivalency, and, detaching it from the >>>>> Galilean. >>>>> >>>>> So, Einstein's second mass-energy equivalency relation, >>>>> and the relation to Einstein's bridges about the centrally >>>>> symmetrical, with how he left his board, are key concepts >>>>> connecting the classical and the superclassical, >>>>> and showing how mathematically it's a thing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> And in the meantime in the real world - forbidden >>>> by the idiot "improper" clocks of GPS and TAI keep >>>> measuring t'=t, just like all the serious clocks >>>> always did. >>>> >>> >>> >>> Well, perhaps the idea is that, as their settings are different, >> >> The idea is, that the purpose of clocks is >> keeping synchronization (i.e. indicating t'=t). >> The purpose of clocks is not providing beautiful >> symmetry to some religious maniacs. >> Taking it short - clock are not toy gadgets for >> some insane worshippers of some insane gurus. > > Especially other people's clocks, .... Right, especially the clocks of "observers". But you're not stupid enough to apply your idiocies even on your own clocks. > >