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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 04:42:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Judge Cannon dismisses Trump classifeid documents case Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv References: <anea9j1u6eqqbin0a970pi8hht7qmvd1al@4ax.com> <kRSdnfkFoqcAxQj7nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> <YcCdnQjvpZTMCAj7nZ2dnZfqn_EAAAAA@giganews.com> <atropos-636C87.14385015072024@news.giganews.com> <ev6b9jto5nsi6e65i6rk9abnrq764b52on@4ax.com> <atropos-F11465.19320215072024@news.giganews.com> <v74r2r$13ukq$1@dont-email.me> <atropos-5A50B6.21092715072024@news.giganews.com> <ssub9jh6rsgpajqdo59n5285b2611kj6om@4ax.com> <v74ue2$n57i$1@solani.org> <vmmc9j9gb8li6tag6oprvte61vb2qclnag@4ax.com> <v76241$nrmh$1@solani.org> <atropos-A3E319.09441416072024@news.giganews.com> Content-Language: en-US From: trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> In-Reply-To: <atropos-A3E319.09441416072024@news.giganews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 79 Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!panix!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.iad1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 09:42:06 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 4806 X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com Message-Id: <17e2f6c373638f4e$6036$3503784$cad58068@news.newsdemon.com> On 7/16/24 11:44 AM, BTR1701 wrote: > In article <v76241$nrmh$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> > wrote: > >> On 7/16/2024 4:35 AM, NoBody wrote: >>> On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:54:27 -0700, suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 7/15/2024 9:50 PM, shawn wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:09:27 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In article <v74r2r$13ukq$1@dont-email.me>, >>>>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 7/15/2024 10:32 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>> In article <ev6b9jto5nsi6e65i6rk9abnrq764b52on@4ax.com>, >>>>>>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 14:38:50 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In article <YcCdnQjvpZTMCAj7nZ2dnZfqn_EAAAAA@giganews.com>, >>>>>>>>>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> atropos@mac.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And this was the only one of the prosecutions that had any actual >>>>>>>>>>>> legitimacy, too. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No, it didn't. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, it did. Both Trump and Biden violated the law by absconding >>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>> classified documents. Biden even shared them with the writer who >>>>>>>>>> ghost-wrote his book, someone who had no clearance at all, let alone >>>>>>>>>> the TS-SCI clearance necessary to receive that information. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> They should both be held accountable, but the DOJ let Biden off the >>>>>>>>>> hook by declaring him an unprosecutable vegetable. So as long as >>>>>>>>>> Biden is going to skate, it's only fitting that Trump does so as >>>>>>>>>> well. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That's not what was said but that isn't important. What is important >>>>>>>>> is Biden returned the documents he had of his own accord. Trump, on >>>>>>>>> the other hand, went out of his way to keep the documents he had to >>>>>>>>> the point of lying whether he had any documents when asked multiple >>>>>>>>> times if he had any and given the chance to return them. If he had >>>>>>>>> returned the documents he had when asked none of this would have >>>>>>>>> happened. Instead he lied and tried to hide the documents he had >>>>>>>>> taken >>>>>>>>> to the point that the FBI had to come and get the documents. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Then they should have charged him with lying to the FBI-- that's what >>>>>>>> they got Martha Stewart on-- but they didn't. They charged him with >>>>>>>> illegally possessing the documents, something of which both Biden and >>>>>>>> Trump are guilty. If one gets off, the other should, too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One cooperated and one didn't ...which I'm told makes a difference. >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe in other cases, but in this one, what apparently made the >>>>>> difference is that Biden is a dementia-addled mess. >>>>> >>>>> Or that if he was charged and put on trial his age would make it hard >>>>> to convict him. Dementia-addled mess is something that you keep saying >>>>> but it isn't what was said as why they didn't charge him. >>>>> >>>> Yep Biden turned over the documents without a subpoena, and Trump didn't >>> >>> A Vice President may not take classifed documents under any situation. >>> It was a crime just to have him. Giving them back is irrelevant to >>> this. >>> >> Neither can a President. Trump's bigger crime was obstruction by not >> giving them back when asked. > > That's not the 'bigger' crime. One is damaging the national security of > the country, the other is just saying 'no' to the National Archives. I think Trump was the only asshole with Top Secret level documents. You're a lying sack of dog shit here as usual.