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W dniu 19.07.2024 o 23:45, gharnagel pisze:
> On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 19:51:32 +0000, Richard Hachel wrote:
>>
>> I once explained to a speaker that additions of relativistic speeds were
>> not done in a common way, and that for example 0.5c+0.5c did not make c.
>>
>> This Internet user refused to believe me.
>>
>> For what? Because it is very difficult to give water to a donkey who is
>> not thirsty, and who categorically refuses to understand or discuss.
>>
>> I think that this makes most of the speakers smile, because they know A
>> LITTLE realtivity, and if they do not necessarily know the general
>> formula
>> for adding relativistic speeds, they at least know the longitudinal
>> formula that is w=(v +u)/(1+v.u/c²) or here w=0.8c.
>>
>> But we must go further. Physicists don't make this kind of mistake, but
>> they do make others. I told Paul B. Andersen that his magnificent
>> integration formula
>>
>> <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?EKV4LWfwyF4mvRIpW8X1iiirzQk@jntp/Data.Media:1>
>>
>> was incorrect PHYSICALLY even though mathematically it was obviously
>> perfect.
>>
>> Paul doesn't want to believe me. This confuses him.
>>
>> However he is wrong and I pointed out to him that if we could integrate
>> all the proper times, to obtain the sum of the total proper time, we
>> could
>> not do it with improper times, the sum of which segment by segment was
>> greater than the total evolution.
>>
>> A bit like realtivist speed additions where the sum is not equal to the
>> common, mathematical sum.
> 
> That's not a valid comparison, Dr. H.
> 
>> Paul doesn't want to believe me, because he wasn't taught that way, and
>> he complains about me.
>>
>> Why doesn't he complain about those who taught him incorrectly?
>>
>> R.H.
> 
> It seems to me that he complained properly.  You have made an accusation
> without a justification.  If one can't use "improper" times to integrate
> a proper time, what does one use?  And if using "improper" times is
> wrong in this case, that throws all of calculus in doubt.
> 
> Frankly, I found that physicists get into more trouble when they ignore
> mathematical rules. 

For sure - your idiot guru will sooner or later
get into big, big trouble for rejecting basic
[Euclidean] math