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W dniu 24.07.2024 o 14:47, Paul.B.Andersen pisze:
> Den 24.07.2024 00:19, skrev Richard Hachel:
>> Le 23/07/2024 à 23:29, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit :
>>> Den 22.07.2024 23:37, skrev Richard Hachel:
>>>> Le 22/07/2024 à 21:34, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's look at the LHC again.
>>>>>
>>>>> The length of the circuit is L = 27 k, γ = 7460
>>>>> The real speed of the proton in the lab frame is
>>>>> v = 0.999999991·c
>>>>>
> 
>>>
>>> When calculating velocities the distance and time must be measured
>>> in the same frame of reference.
>>> The distance in one frame and the time in another frame is not
>>> a speed of anything if the frames are moving relative to each other.
> 
>>
>> I know it may seem very strange (relativistic physics is a bit strange 
>> but unavoidable) but that's how it happens.
>> It is the observing frame of reference that has the right distance, 
>> but it is the particle or rocket that has the right time.
>> Observable time being only an anisochronous illusion.
> 
> It isn't only "strange", it is idiotic nonsense.
> 
> Measured in the lab frame the proton is moving around
> the L = 27 km long ring in T = 90.0623065140618 μs.
> The very real speed of the proton relative to the lab is
> v = L/T =  0.999999991·c

Your idiot guru Roberts could explain you that
"measured" doesn't necessarily mean "real"
in the liturgy of your moronic church.