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Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 15:32:59 +0200
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Subject: Re: [SR and synchronization] Cognitive Dissonances and Mental Blockage
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W dniu 31.08.2024 o 15:22, Python pisze:
> Le 31/08/2024 à 15:05, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>> W dniu 31.08.2024 o 14:19, Python pisze:
>>> Le 30/08/2024 à 20:03, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>>>> W dniu 30.08.2024 o 17:09, Python pisze:
>>>>> Le 30/08/2024 à 13:44, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> No theory of mathematics include clocks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure! But a model of clocks can appear in a mathematical
>>>>> theory.
>>>>
>>>> It can
>>>
>>> Good to know. We agree then.
>>>
>>>> and, what's more important - a
>>>> relativistic idiot like to invoke
>>>> the auyhority of mathematics for
>>>> excusing his mad claims.
>>>> BTW - is Pythagorean theorem a
>>>> "hard mathematical fact"?
>>>> Yes or not?
>>>
>>> The hard mathematical fact is: Euclid's Axioms => Pythagorean theorem.
>>>
>>> Another question?
>>
>> Here it comes:
>> Quoting:
>>  >> Paragraph I.1. describes a procedure that looks non symmetric at
>>  >> first sight: clocks A and B are not treated exactly the same way
>>  >> (two measures for A, one for B for instance), nevertheless at the
>>  >> end of the day one can *prove* that the results are symmetric and
>>  >> that inverting A and B would lead to the same result.
>>  >
>> This is hard mathematical facts Richard. Something beyond your head.
>> End of quoting.
>>
>> No axioms now implying that?
> 
> We basically need a archimedian complete ordered field. i.e. R.
> 
> Let's pick ZFC + Peano, and R (for values of the "clocks") defined as
> the set of Cauchy sequences on Q or Dedekind's cuts.

I see: a cow and a cow gives a rhino.
What a hard mathematical fact it is -
just take Peano's and define a cow
as 1 and  a rhino as 2.