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Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 15:32:59 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [SR and synchronization] Cognitive Dissonances and Mental Blockage Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <v9q6eu$1tlm9$1@dont-email.me> <liduroFtbroU2@mid.individual.net> <vah9hs$2c43u$1@dont-email.me> <lj56luFe0luU3@mid.individual.net> <M4vxPZKxPU6U7NDCGNWCGCM0lRc@jntp> <ljahm9F9dfdU2@mid.individual.net> <vapd5l$3tffr$1@dont-email.me> <ljd51mFl74gU4@mid.individual.net> <vas655$e2la$2@dont-email.me> <o63FO6ufY9csAokzvXMpjto87yU@jntp> <vas7rr$e2la$4@dont-email.me> <17f07ef6b2cab9eb$615722$546728$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <vasnba$e2la$22@dont-email.me> <17f093a70d87b977$760537$505029$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> <vav1pe$109ac$3@dont-email.me> <17f0d1f84336d9cd$768489$505029$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> <vav5e0$109ac$7@dont-email.me> Content-Language: pl From: Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> In-Reply-To: <vav5e0$109ac$7@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 51 Path: ...!npeer.as286.net!npeer-ng0.as286.net!peer02.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer03.ams4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.eu1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 13:32:59 +0000 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <17f0d37a5290a3b7$678178$505064$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> X-Received-Bytes: 3200 Bytes: 3327 W dniu 31.08.2024 o 15:22, Python pisze: > Le 31/08/2024 à 15:05, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : >> W dniu 31.08.2024 o 14:19, Python pisze: >>> Le 30/08/2024 à 20:03, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : >>>> W dniu 30.08.2024 o 17:09, Python pisze: >>>>> Le 30/08/2024 à 13:44, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : >>>>> ... >>>>>> No theory of mathematics include clocks. >>>>> >>>>> Sure! But a model of clocks can appear in a mathematical >>>>> theory. >>>> >>>> It can >>> >>> Good to know. We agree then. >>> >>>> and, what's more important - a >>>> relativistic idiot like to invoke >>>> the auyhority of mathematics for >>>> excusing his mad claims. >>>> BTW - is Pythagorean theorem a >>>> "hard mathematical fact"? >>>> Yes or not? >>> >>> The hard mathematical fact is: Euclid's Axioms => Pythagorean theorem. >>> >>> Another question? >> >> Here it comes: >> Quoting: >> >> Paragraph I.1. describes a procedure that looks non symmetric at >> >> first sight: clocks A and B are not treated exactly the same way >> >> (two measures for A, one for B for instance), nevertheless at the >> >> end of the day one can *prove* that the results are symmetric and >> >> that inverting A and B would lead to the same result. >> > >> This is hard mathematical facts Richard. Something beyond your head. >> End of quoting. >> >> No axioms now implying that? > > We basically need a archimedian complete ordered field. i.e. R. > > Let's pick ZFC + Peano, and R (for values of the "clocks") defined as > the set of Cauchy sequences on Q or Dedekind's cuts. I see: a cow and a cow gives a rhino. What a hard mathematical fact it is - just take Peano's and define a cow as 1 and a rhino as 2.