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W dniu 25.09.2024 o 13:05, Python pisze:
> Le 25/09/2024 à 12:59, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>> W dniu 25.09.2024 o 10:33, Python pisze:
>>> Le 25/09/2024 à 07:03, Thomas Heger a écrit :
>>>> Am Sonntag000022, 22.09.2024 um 16:41 schrieb Sylvia Else:
>>>>> On 17-Sept-24 11:16 am, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>>>>> In reality, the LT is the difference in time taken for the transverse
>>>>>> and longitudinal beams.
>>>>>> Like with a river current, the longitudinal motion will be delayed 
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> than the transverse.
>>>>>> This is the difference that should have been detected by the
>>>>>> Michelson-Morley experiment.
>>>>>> As with water that is not flowing, we don't need these equations 
>>>>>> without
>>>>>> an ether.
>>>>>> Since relativity does not involve an ether, applying the Lorentz
>>>>>> Transformation in this context is nonsensical.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you look for equations that describe a universe in which all 
>>>>> observers measure the same speed for light, then you arrive at the 
>>>>> Lorentz transformation. This is why Einstein and Lorentz ended up 
>>>>> in the same place - they both started with the same premise.
>>>>
>>>> As far as I can tell, the question was not the speed of light, but 
>>>> 'form invariance' between coordinate systems in motion, which 
>>>> motivated Voigt and Poincare to develop an early form of SRT.
>>>>
>>>> This was taken by Hendrik Lorentz, who developed on that foundation 
>>>> something, which Poincare named 'Lorentz transform'.
>>>>
>>>> And I have read, that Poincare didn't like that and also not 
>>>> Einstein's SRT.
>>>
>>> You read what? Where?
>>
>> Oh, Poincare could be fooled enough to
>> support SR - too bad for him. But he
>> wrote very clearly what he thinks of
>> rejecting Euclidean geometry (which
>> [Einstein] did later in [snip prof.]
> 
> No he didn't.

Yes, he did.
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/37157/37157-pdf.pdf
He wrote clearly enough for anyone able to read.
Even if not clearly enough for you, poor stinker.



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