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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 13:55:44 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: The truth about the Lorentz Transformation. Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <152fdece6d8ad07399662b8718f94e75@www.novabbs.com> <llaokuF7ikkU1@mid.individual.net> <llhjsaF8lbmU4@mid.individual.net> <vd0hrt$3kaim$2@dont-email.me> <17f8779fe4e33237$5768$853305$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> <vd0qqh$3l9p2$1@dont-email.me> <17f8791c30c406aa$5769$853305$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> <vd0t0s$3luo6$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: pl From: Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> In-Reply-To: <vd0t0s$3luo6$1@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 60 Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeder1.feed.ams11.usenet.farm!feed.usenet.farm!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.eu1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 11:55:43 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 3316 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <17f87aada94b530a$12773$844270$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 3752 W dniu 25.09.2024 o 13:43, Python pisze: > Le 25/09/2024 à 13:26, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : >> W dniu 25.09.2024 o 13:05, Python pisze: >>> Le 25/09/2024 à 12:59, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : >>>> W dniu 25.09.2024 o 10:33, Python pisze: >>>>> Le 25/09/2024 à 07:03, Thomas Heger a écrit : >>>>>> Am Sonntag000022, 22.09.2024 um 16:41 schrieb Sylvia Else: >>>>>>> On 17-Sept-24 11:16 am, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>>>>>> In reality, the LT is the difference in time taken for the >>>>>>>> transverse >>>>>>>> and longitudinal beams. >>>>>>>> Like with a river current, the longitudinal motion will be >>>>>>>> delayed more >>>>>>>> than the transverse. >>>>>>>> This is the difference that should have been detected by the >>>>>>>> Michelson-Morley experiment. >>>>>>>> As with water that is not flowing, we don't need these equations >>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>> an ether. >>>>>>>> Since relativity does not involve an ether, applying the Lorentz >>>>>>>> Transformation in this context is nonsensical. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you look for equations that describe a universe in which all >>>>>>> observers measure the same speed for light, then you arrive at >>>>>>> the Lorentz transformation. This is why Einstein and Lorentz >>>>>>> ended up in the same place - they both started with the same >>>>>>> premise. >>>>>> >>>>>> As far as I can tell, the question was not the speed of light, but >>>>>> 'form invariance' between coordinate systems in motion, which >>>>>> motivated Voigt and Poincare to develop an early form of SRT. >>>>>> >>>>>> This was taken by Hendrik Lorentz, who developed on that >>>>>> foundation something, which Poincare named 'Lorentz transform'. >>>>>> >>>>>> And I have read, that Poincare didn't like that and also not >>>>>> Einstein's SRT. >>>>> >>>>> You read what? Where? >>>> >>>> Oh, Poincare could be fooled enough to >>>> support SR - too bad for him. But he >>>> wrote very clearly what he thinks of >>>> rejecting Euclidean geometry (which >>>> [Einstein] did later in [snip prof.] >>> >>> No he didn't. >> >> Yes, he did. >> https://www.gutenberg.org/files/37157/37157-pdf.pdf >> He wrote clearly enough for anyone able to read. >> Even if not clearly enough for you > I meant Einstein didn't reject Euclidean Geometry. So - does his moronic church assumes EG true? REALLY? Yes, he did. He was a true idiot indeed. And your stinking lie has short legs, poor stinker.