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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 13:55:44 +0200
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Subject: Re: The truth about the Lorentz Transformation.
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W dniu 25.09.2024 o 13:43, Python pisze:
> Le 25/09/2024 à 13:26, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>> W dniu 25.09.2024 o 13:05, Python pisze:
>>> Le 25/09/2024 à 12:59, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>>>> W dniu 25.09.2024 o 10:33, Python pisze:
>>>>> Le 25/09/2024 à 07:03, Thomas Heger a écrit :
>>>>>> Am Sonntag000022, 22.09.2024 um 16:41 schrieb Sylvia Else:
>>>>>>> On 17-Sept-24 11:16 am, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>>>>>>> In reality, the LT is the difference in time taken for the 
>>>>>>>> transverse
>>>>>>>> and longitudinal beams.
>>>>>>>> Like with a river current, the longitudinal motion will be 
>>>>>>>> delayed more
>>>>>>>> than the transverse.
>>>>>>>> This is the difference that should have been detected by the
>>>>>>>> Michelson-Morley experiment.
>>>>>>>> As with water that is not flowing, we don't need these equations 
>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>> an ether.
>>>>>>>> Since relativity does not involve an ether, applying the Lorentz
>>>>>>>> Transformation in this context is nonsensical.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you look for equations that describe a universe in which all 
>>>>>>> observers measure the same speed for light, then you arrive at 
>>>>>>> the Lorentz transformation. This is why Einstein and Lorentz 
>>>>>>> ended up in the same place - they both started with the same 
>>>>>>> premise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as I can tell, the question was not the speed of light, but 
>>>>>> 'form invariance' between coordinate systems in motion, which 
>>>>>> motivated Voigt and Poincare to develop an early form of SRT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was taken by Hendrik Lorentz, who developed on that 
>>>>>> foundation something, which Poincare named 'Lorentz transform'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I have read, that Poincare didn't like that and also not 
>>>>>> Einstein's SRT.
>>>>>
>>>>> You read what? Where?
>>>>
>>>> Oh, Poincare could be fooled enough to
>>>> support SR - too bad for him. But he
>>>> wrote very clearly what he thinks of
>>>> rejecting Euclidean geometry (which
>>>> [Einstein] did later in [snip prof.]
>>>
>>> No he didn't.
>>
>> Yes, he did.
>> https://www.gutenberg.org/files/37157/37157-pdf.pdf
>> He wrote clearly enough for anyone able to read.
>> Even if not clearly enough for you
> I meant Einstein didn't reject Euclidean Geometry.

So - does his moronic church assumes EG
true? REALLY?
Yes, he did. He was a true idiot indeed.
And your stinking lie has short legs,
poor stinker.