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Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2024 15:45:19 +0200
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Subject: Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity
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W dniu 12.10.2024 o 15:17, Python pisze:
> Le 12/10/2024 à 15:11, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>> W dniu 12.10.2024 o 14:22, Python pisze:
>>> Le 12/10/2024 à 13:56, M.D. Richard "Hachel" Lengrand a écrit :
>>>> Le 12/10/2024 à 11:05, Mikko a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is actually not true, because the world which SRT describes 
>>>>>> isn't the world we live in.
>>>>>
>>>>> A failed attempt is still an attempt. Therefore your "because" is 
>>>>> wrong.
>>>>> SR is an attempt to describe the world. Later it was found out that 
>>>>> the
>>>>> world is different but that does not affect what SR is.
>>>>>
>>>>>> SRT is about a world, where all thinfgs drift around in a dark and 
>>>>>> starless void,
>>>>>
>>>>> No, it is not. SR is about the geometry of the world, not about its 
>>>>> matter
>>>>> content except that the matter content must be compatible with the 
>>>>> geometry.
>>>>
>>>> SR is first and foremost an attempt to explain the Michelson-Morley 
>>>> experiment.
>>>>
>>>> The calculation shows that, according to the experiment, w=v+c=c
>>>
>>> It does not.
>>>
>>>> Which is absurd.
>>>
>>> Indeed. But only you say that.
>>
>> And whatever you say - Poincare had enough wit
>> to understand how idiotic rejecting Euclid
> 
> Nobody rejected Euclid.

Sure, sure. Even the idiots from
your bunch of idiots are not THAT
stupid, they only pretend they did.

Anyway,  -  Poincare had enough wit
to understand how idiotic rejecting Euclid
would be, and he has written it clearly
enough for anyone able to read (even if not
clearly enough for you, poor stinker).