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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 15:34:57 +0200
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Subject: Re: What is "local time"?
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W dniu 16.10.2024 o 05:45, gharnagel pisze:
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:28:01 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>
>> W dniu 15.10.2024 o 22:29, Python pisze:
>> >
>> > Le 15/10/2024 à 18:32, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>> > >
>> > > W dniu 15.10.2024 o 14:52, gharnagel pisze:
>> > > >
>> > > > Before you talk about "local time" you must first understand
>> > > > "time."  What is "time"?  Or maybe, the question is: WHY is
>> > > > time?  Does space have time, or do just masses have time?  Is
>> > > > there more than one dimension of time?  It appears to be a
>> > > > quantum thing/process; we use it, and are ruled by it, but we
>> > > > just don't know very much about it.
>> > >
>> > > It's not very complicated
>> >
>> > So explain.
>>
>> It is a coordinate. A purely virtual human
>> made abstract, having nothing in commom with
>> your precioujs nature. And with your
>> precious experiments.
> 
> As usual, Wozniak is conflating two different
> concepts. 

As usual, Harrie spits. And say
nonsenses about things he admits he
doesn't know much about. Well,
it's not usual that he admits.


  Humans try to model nature, and
> since, for example, trees grow, die and decay,
> there is something in nature that changes. 

Oh, there is a wide variety of things
that change in nature. Time, however,
is not any of them. There is no time
in nature. It's a purely  virtual abstract
invented by humans - for the purpose of
describing. Describing nature and other
things.
Time is almost always present in  any
description of anything.  That's why
it appears for weak minds to be something
real.

> Clocks and coordinates and theories are ways
> that we model time.  But they aren't time,

Clocks are clocks, theories are theories.
Time is obviously not any of them.

As for coordinates - we have created a
number of them, and about 20-30 of them
are times.



> just as the map is not the territory.