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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 15:34:57 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: What is "local time"? Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <M0ZS0z9of5m3zPojotZe3TGunn4@jntp> <1aec54a219198abeee623f4762a3f105@www.novabbs.com> <17fead611f0d4f22$260472$844270$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> <GCRBkG15sYAgJq8IFpUGyd-0A1o@jntp> <17febd840835ea5f$313547$853305$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> <2efd75a85dc80d75d54ecfe4d61baf34@www.novabbs.com> Content-Language: pl From: Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> In-Reply-To: <2efd75a85dc80d75d54ecfe4d61baf34@www.novabbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 64 Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!tr3.iad1.usenetexpress.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.eu1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 13:34:58 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 2759 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <17fef24802f71607$317544$826957$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 3166 W dniu 16.10.2024 o 05:45, gharnagel pisze: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:28:01 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote: >> >> W dniu 15.10.2024 o 22:29, Python pisze: >> > >> > Le 15/10/2024 à 18:32, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : >> > > >> > > W dniu 15.10.2024 o 14:52, gharnagel pisze: >> > > > >> > > > Before you talk about "local time" you must first understand >> > > > "time." What is "time"? Or maybe, the question is: WHY is >> > > > time? Does space have time, or do just masses have time? Is >> > > > there more than one dimension of time? It appears to be a >> > > > quantum thing/process; we use it, and are ruled by it, but we >> > > > just don't know very much about it. >> > > >> > > It's not very complicated >> > >> > So explain. >> >> It is a coordinate. A purely virtual human >> made abstract, having nothing in commom with >> your precioujs nature. And with your >> precious experiments. > > As usual, Wozniak is conflating two different > concepts. As usual, Harrie spits. And say nonsenses about things he admits he doesn't know much about. Well, it's not usual that he admits. Humans try to model nature, and > since, for example, trees grow, die and decay, > there is something in nature that changes. Oh, there is a wide variety of things that change in nature. Time, however, is not any of them. There is no time in nature. It's a purely virtual abstract invented by humans - for the purpose of describing. Describing nature and other things. Time is almost always present in any description of anything. That's why it appears for weak minds to be something real. > Clocks and coordinates and theories are ways > that we model time. But they aren't time, Clocks are clocks, theories are theories. Time is obviously not any of them. As for coordinates - we have created a number of them, and about 20-30 of them are times. > just as the map is not the territory.