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Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 10:41:49 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: The Shapiro's experiment HOAX. A 1968 TIME article. Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <db18709b6ba689b9c07245000ff1b094@www.novabbs.com> <EgMPO.1766243$4J12.285784@fx12.ams4> <670ffed7$1$32085$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <2fcf10d29b40e102861392bbb5f1cb0c@www.novabbs.com> <6712b99d$0$12930$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <vevnfg$3pet8$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: pl From: Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> In-Reply-To: <vevnfg$3pet8$1@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 39 Path: ...!news-out.netnews.com!s1-1.netnews.com!tr2.iad1.usenetexpress.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.eu1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 08:41:49 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 2248 X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com Message-Id: <17ffce068c9c091d$388681$853305$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 2592 W dniu 19.10.2024 o 09:35, Athel Cornish-Bowden pisze: > On 2024-10-18 19:40:13 +0000, J. J. Lodder said: > >> rhertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 17:58:47 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote: >>> >>> <snip> >>> >>>> Moreover, Shapiro's paper is titled >>>> FOURTH TEST OF GENERAL RELATIVITY: --PRELIMINARY RESULTS-- [Emph. JJL] >>>> >>>> For Shipiro the results were at the edge of what was technically >>>> possible to detect, -at the time-. >>>> Nowadays taking Shapiro delay has to be incorporated >>>> into space probe tracking and orbit determination. >>>> Nutters worry about popular reports of the original experiment, >>>> while the results themselves are standard everyday engineering. >>>> >>>> Hint for RH: >>>> All interplanetry spacecraft are equipped with transponders. >>>> These devices respond to an incoming radio pulse by responding >>>> with a reply pulse, with a known delay. >>>> The replies are of course detected routinely, >>>> and measured delays are used for orbit calculation and navigation. >>> >>> THE ABOVE COMMENT SUITS BETTER COMING FROM A KNOW-IT-ALL CHARLATAN. >>> YOU ARE SO WRONG AND MISINFORMED THAT MAKES ME CRY. >> >> Please do, you will be in need of lots of crying. >> >> [snip ALL CAPS] > > Yes. It seems that rhertz has learned from Donald J. Trump that putting > stuff in ALL CAPS will make readers take it more seriously. Or maybe it was from poor relativistic idiot Tom Roberts.