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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:56:19 +0200
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Subject: Re: What is "local time"?
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W dniu 23.10.2024 o 05:57, gharnagel pisze:

> Does everything happen at once?  No, it doesn't.  Did
> the invention of clocks keep everything from happening
> at once?  No, it didn't. 


Sure, sure - time(i.e. "what clocks indicate")
had nothing in common with that.



> "'Seeing pink elephants' is a euphemism for hallucinations
> caused by delirium tremens or alcoholic hallucinosis,
> especially the former."
> 
> Wozniak needs to lay off the booze.

slander
noun [ C or U ]
uk  /ˈslɑːn.dər/ us  /ˈslæn.dɚ/
a false spoken statement about someone that
damages their reputation, or the making of
such a statement.

BTW:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_elephant_(animal)
I was a bit mistaken about real elephants never
pink. Time - part of nature is rather like
purple elephants.



> 
>> > > Dealing with sticks and rods humans started to
>> > > imagine a perfect rigid rod. The origin of
>> > > your mystical time bullshit is similar.
>> >
>> > Wozniak's disinforming again.  The "rigid rod" is like
>> > a map:  They're both useful simplistic models to consider
>> > deeper problems
> 
>> So was your gedanken time - when it was
>> similar to real ones, i.e. before your
>> idiot guru revolutionized it.
> 
> Irrelevant baloney intended to misdirect and obfuscate.
> 
>> Anyway, it never existed. Just like "rigid
>> rod".
> 
> More irrelevant bool poop.  Much of Wozniak's beloved
> "information" that he fondles doesn't exist, either.
> Apparently, he doesn't believe in maps 

What is apparent to an utter relativistic idiot doesn't
matter.

> Wozniak is lying and obfuscating in a sorry attempt to
> misdirect the discussion.  The question of whether time
> is a human invention has NOTHING to do with relativity.

An assertion is no way an argument, poor
trash.


> 
>> > > Nothing like that ever existed in the reality. There
>> > > are only entities like UTC, TAI, zone times.
>> > > All are human invented, all have nothing in
>> > > common with nature.
>> >
>> > So humans created time so everything doesn't happen at
>> > once?
>>
>> So.
> 
> So Wozniak is wrong that time is ONLY a human invention.

Nope. Harnagel is wrong that it isn't. He admits
himself - he doesn't know much about the subject -
but being a DK idiot he still acts as if he knew
everything.


>> They can be. It's just not as easy as Orwell
>> thought and The Shit's doggies didn't succeed;
>> not that they didn't try hard, of course.
> 
> Wozniak is full of merde.  The question of time is MUCH
> older that relativity

And so is the mistake of your moronic church
of physics.


>>
>> Yes, they are. UTC doesn't change for a fast
>> observer, other real times neither. Sorry,
>> poor trash.
> 
> More attempts to redefine the discussion about relativity.
> Complete bull merde (pardon my French).


Just pointing some properties of a real time.