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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:30:09 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: How can gravity itself escape a black hole? Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <0c2d15b56c8574a409160470daacd2aa@www.novabbs.com> <67245699.7E0@ix.netcom.com> <69b218714bad6ce079ec190277a8f310@www.novabbs.com> <0d3a4391-7167-b0a4-c1d6-b0d4ec74fc08@ichigo.kinoko.kuri> <97dfb8e00846bea7e0b4b2b75bb47330@www.novabbs.com> <1803dbfe8d933bdb$48683$977218$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <36ad461db86e3be2e5f718b8acfd57ce@www.novabbs.com> Content-Language: pl From: Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> In-Reply-To: <36ad461db86e3be2e5f718b8acfd57ce@www.novabbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 49 Path: ...!news-out.netnews.com!s1-1.netnews.com!tr2.iad1.usenetexpress.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.eu1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2024 19:30:07 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 2312 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <1803eef29fa0d3de$57533$990713$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 2655 W dniu 01.11.2024 o 17:24, gharnagel pisze: > On Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:42:49 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote: >> >> W dniu 01.11.2024 o 14:14, gharnagel pisze: >> >> > Consider the case when vr = 0 and vt^2/c^2 = rs/2r. The mass >> > is in orbit around the BH at r = 1.5rs and time is frozen from >> > the distant observer's perspective, which is strange: how can >> > it orbit if it's frozen ... >> >> Simply: fantasy worlds > > Nothing is more fantastic than someone who asserts that time > didn't exist before humans invented it :-)) And still I've provided more than 40 examples of times that for sure didn't exist before humans invented them. > >> imagined by some idiots > > SLANDER! Wozniak is SLANDERING for no valid reason at all! Nope, poor trash. It is not false. My alleged booze - is. Of course, it's no surprise that you're too stupid to distinguish an insult and a slander. Anyway, speaking to relativistic scum sadly made me partially descending to its level. > >> can behave very strangely indeed. >> But how about a distant observer moving wrt >> the one you specified? Is the mass frozen for >> him as well, > > The scenario about which Wozniak has chosen to express his > ignorance is a tangential velocity, not a linear one. And? Is the mass frozen for such observer or not? No answer? Sure. Slandering is easy, answerring questions is not, right, poor trash?