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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 21:29:55 +0100
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Subject: Re: Why a time of the real world must be galilean
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W dniu 11.12.2024 o 20:17, Python pisze:
> Le 11/12/2024 à 08:17, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>> W dniu 10.12.2024 o 20:45, Python pisze:
>>> Le 10/12/2024 à 20:20, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>>>> ...
>>>>> How do you practically check your "t = t'" equations for clocks 
>>>>> standing next to each other?
>>>>
>>>> I read the numbers they display and I compare them.
>>>
>>> Good.
>>>
>>>> Then for distant mutually at rest clocks with no
>>>>> gravity involved?
>>>>
>>>> I don't.
>>>
>>> Sad. You don't. You can't. We can.
>>
>> No you can't either. Sorry, There is a small technical detail: those
>> "distant clocks" are not moving wrt each
>> other.
>> How do you ensure that? By assuming the
>> condition a priori;and you can do it because
>> you're only applying your procedure
>> in your gedanken. Am I incorrect ?
> 
> You are. I put two clocks at the extremity of a rod.

Yeah, sure - "distant" clocks  at the
extremity of the rod - very practical
indeed, isn't it, poor stinker?


  This is quite
> reasonable to assume they are at rest wrt to each other, isn't it?

No. Take 2 bodies - one orbitting the other.
Join them with a rod, do you secure their relative
immobility, poor stinker? Yeah, you imagined and insisted
Gdańsk and Warsaw aren't moving wrt each other. You're
such an idiot.


>> You're only believing [into] a great
>> practical procedure - because your is pumping you with gedanken fairy
>> tales where it works fine.
> 
> Nope. If such a procedure would fail it could be checked.

How could it fail if you  have never used it.


> No magic, and if gravity could not be ignored in a given practical setup 

So, where, precisely, was your idiocy
applied. In practice.