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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 21:29:55 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Why a time of the real world must be galilean Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <180f1778e64eec8d$354$1238888$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> <180f679ba2214b38$30$1234847$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <q_tA9UFX02u5-3B010MCiLA7Ark@jntp> <180fa0ddc9b0360f$31$1234847$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <ox0jyhk1mc_KBOCrib7_6M0bkbI@jntp> <180fc4a84f1891a8$1162$1228337$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <jHWvZ3O-GEB5fyb9dVjRPDx9Ivg@jntp> <180fe70a094d1a10$33$1234847$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <Ia2LLeutVzilYv0TJojTZUmFydw@jntp> <18100e2d5ddd2efe$37$1234847$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <nacLK33QPu6-kSUxgE1MTKM29wU@jntp> Content-Language: pl From: Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> In-Reply-To: <nacLK33QPu6-kSUxgE1MTKM29wU@jntp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 59 Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeder1.feed.ams11.usenet.farm!feed.usenet.farm!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.eu1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 20:29:54 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 2790 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <1810396c90cd5e45$3874$1234847$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 3153 W dniu 11.12.2024 o 20:17, Python pisze: > Le 11/12/2024 à 08:17, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : >> W dniu 10.12.2024 o 20:45, Python pisze: >>> Le 10/12/2024 à 20:20, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : >>>> ... >>>>> How do you practically check your "t = t'" equations for clocks >>>>> standing next to each other? >>>> >>>> I read the numbers they display and I compare them. >>> >>> Good. >>> >>>> Then for distant mutually at rest clocks with no >>>>> gravity involved? >>>> >>>> I don't. >>> >>> Sad. You don't. You can't. We can. >> >> No you can't either. Sorry, There is a small technical detail: those >> "distant clocks" are not moving wrt each >> other. >> How do you ensure that? By assuming the >> condition a priori;and you can do it because >> you're only applying your procedure >> in your gedanken. Am I incorrect ? > > You are. I put two clocks at the extremity of a rod. Yeah, sure - "distant" clocks at the extremity of the rod - very practical indeed, isn't it, poor stinker? This is quite > reasonable to assume they are at rest wrt to each other, isn't it? No. Take 2 bodies - one orbitting the other. Join them with a rod, do you secure their relative immobility, poor stinker? Yeah, you imagined and insisted Gdańsk and Warsaw aren't moving wrt each other. You're such an idiot. >> You're only believing [into] a great >> practical procedure - because your is pumping you with gedanken fairy >> tales where it works fine. > > Nope. If such a procedure would fail it could be checked. How could it fail if you have never used it. > No magic, and if gravity could not be ignored in a given practical setup So, where, precisely, was your idiocy applied. In practice.